ERufian
>what is so great about Sound Forge above and beyond what modern day daws can do?
 
It's not a DAW it's an audio editor. You can easily do low-level editing of one track, e.g., smoothing out single peaks in a waveform that was clipped, or cutting exactly at a zero-crossing.
 
It also includes very effective processing and effects, like noise reduction based on a captured noise print, volume maximization (called "wave hammer", I particularly like it for processing spoken word audio files), convolution reverb and time stretching. Effects can be previewed in real time before applying them (instead of having to spend time on duplicating the track and applying the effect before I can listen to the results).
 
It used to include CD Architect for controlling every detail of producing an audio CD. It also has batch processing of files (very useful e.g., if you have multiple files where you'd like to apply an Fx chain and then convert to a different format)
 
For me, whenever I found a low-level operation hard to do in a DAW, I just exported the track, tweaked it in SF, and re-imported it into the DAW
 
(these are just the qualities in SF that I've liked for years, others probably see different advantages in it).
 
I already purchased and installed this, I can now answer my own earlier question about the dongle: It applies only to Samplitude and it is not required. Saving the license to a Wibu dongle is offered as an optional alternative instead of authorizing the machine (note that iLok or eLicenser won't work, only Wibu)

I totally get it now. Watched the whole tutorial on Sound Forge Pro today over at Groove 3! Its very informative and inspiring! Can't wait to learn SFP11 now also, incorporate it into my workflow someday. I have G3 membership, highly recommend the tutorial for anyone wondering the same on usefulness. The free to preview intro video is very informative also!
https://www.groove3.com/Sony-training-video-tutorials/Sound-Forge-Pro-11-for-Windows-Explained
 

Ok, so who like Samp. more than Sonar.. wish the will extend the sale for a few more days..

jpetersen

bwbalint
click on the link above: (or here, as I copied it.)  there will be a 'Purchase Now' link on the top of that page.  Pull out a Credit Card, and away you go.  you may need to register on the Magix page, or there is a tab to 'Purchase/buy as guest.'  You will have an option for download or mail.  There was no additional cost for mail delivery that I saw in the final invoice.  
 
http://www.magix.com/inde...m_campaign=US_48_spsut

I see a green Buy Now button at the bottom of the page.
I get as far as the page with the Register now and Order as guest buttons, but neither do anything.
Probably browser specific stuff. Bummer.

Me too,i have used Firefox and my reg screen in Samplitude is green but when i insert my mail and password for reg online i have an error like "invalid parameters"......but it's all right i have checked...sent an email to support

Interesting... I use SF10 for all my final tweaking so I will have a look at this...
 
thanks

£115 at checkout... Amazing...

I used to use Sound Forge all the time but don't seem to need it as much these days. Haven't updated since Sony sold the product line to Magix, but that's nothing against the new company, I just haven't found the new features compelling enough to justify the expense. It's definitely not the prettiest of apps but useful and rock solid for what it does. I've used the batch processing hundreds of times to save many, many hours of annoying low level work. Automation is a beautiful thing sometimes!

Spectral Layers is certainly intriguing! Might try the demo of that if there is one. Anyone have any thoughts about it versus iZotope's RX? I have the entry level version of that which I got for a song, plus the plugin pack which came with MPB2 and is excellent. So I'm not sure if Layers brings me much that I can't do already...

I'm already demoing Samplitude and it's certainly impressively complete. I don't love the interface but I could probably get used to it. I will say that it seems quite inefficient wrt CPU so far - at least using my native E-Mu ASIO driver. I fully admit I don't have up to the minute hardware here, it's an old machine and an old interface, but other things (Sonar, Reason, S1, Reaper, Mixbus) run quite happily on it and give me reasonable performance. With Samplitude I had to switch to Asio4all to do basically anything at all and even then it seems to get overwhelmed pretty easily. Not a good sign, but I will experiment a bit more and see if it can be solved, as otherwise there's a lot to like.

I wish the sale went a bit longer too, I hate making decisions under the gun and my coffers are not exactly overflowing just now, so the month Presonus gave us to check things out makes that a bit easier, which may yet win them a sale here... But, a crazy flash sale is a crazy flash sale, who am I to tell anyone how to run a business?

subtlearts
I used to use Sound Forge all the time but don't seem to need it as much these days. Haven't updated since Sony sold the product line to Magix, but that's nothing against the new company, I just haven't found the new features compelling enough to justify the expense. It's definitely not the prettiest of apps but useful and rock solid for what it does. I've used the batch processing hundreds of times to save many, many hours of annoying low level work. Automation is a beautiful thing sometimes!

Spectral Layers is certainly intriguing! Might try the demo of that if there is one. Anyone have any thoughts about it versus iZotope's RX? I have the entry level version of that which I got for a song, plus the plugin pack which came with MPB2 and is excellent. So I'm not sure if Layers brings me much that I can't do already...

I'm already demoing Samplitude and it's certainly impressively complete. I don't love the interface but I could probably get used to it. I will say that it seems quite inefficient wrt CPU so far - at least using my native E-Mu ASIO driver. I fully admit I don't have up to the minute hardware here, it's an old machine and an old interface, but other things (Sonar, Reason, S1, Reaper, Mixbus) run quite happily on it and give me reasonable performance. With Samplitude I had to switch to Asio4all to do basically anything at all and even then it seems to get overwhelmed pretty easily. Not a good sign, but I will experiment a bit more and see if it can be solved, as otherwise there's a lot to like.

I wish the sale went a bit longer too, I hate making decisions under the gun and my coffers are not exactly overflowing just now, so the month Presonus gave us to check things out makes that a bit easier, which may yet win them a sale here... But, a crazy flash sale is a crazy flash sale, who am I to tell anyone how to run a business?

  You did see this didn't you?
 
http://skins.birdline.gr/index.php?page=home

RajahP
You did see this didn't you? 
http://skins.birdline.gr/index.php?page=home

No I hadn't checked them out yet, though I knew they were included. It's not so much the colour scheme that I'm not super jazzed about - and I may be wrong, but I'm not seeing much change in those skins except the colour scheme. I'm actually quite OK with the Carbon scheme - I tend to like things on the dark side. It's more the layout, even though there are a few things to like about it - and I also forgot to mention that I LOVE the Object editor. But the interface seems more cluttered and boxy to me than Sonar's, while not being as fluid and clean as S1.
 
Also I do a lot of MIDI editing and I have gotten very used to certain Sonar workflow things, like quickly hitting shift-D to maximize the MIDI editor in the Multidock, then shrinking it again, or likewise with the console (though I usually have that on a second monitor) and so on. I can handle the tabbed docker, though I find it a bit cluttery to have all those tabs in the middle of the screen, but I can't seem to maximize it, which is frustrating for MIDI editing. Of course you can drag a tab out and put it somewhere else, though that took me a while to figure out, but even then it has limited resizing options, I can't seem to resize it freely as I want to. I can maximize it, which is OK for editing, but then it's tricky to switch back and forth between the main window and that new, floating window. Alt-tab doesn't work as it's not a separate Windows window.
 
I really have enjoyed, in Sonar, being able to zoom around, opening and closing docking areas (Inspector, Browser, Multidock) and switching views instantly with easily remapped key shortcuts - or even assignable control surface buttons. Possibly I can find ways to do these things in Samplitude, but I'm not finding it intuitive to get around in yet. And I don't have much more time to decide about it. So that's... annoying. 
 

I agree, having spent an hour in Samplitude that the interface isn't as nice as SONAR or Studio One.

What did impress me though was when I added Adaptiverb to a buss and routed a send from my guitar track to it there was zero latency and I didn't even have to click on Adaptiverb's reduced latency button.

GIM Productionsi remember that Sequoia(same developer)is a BBC tool.
I'm tempted.....

The BBC uses anything and everything. If there's a production tool, they will be using it.