bgl1
I can switch my view filter across multiple audio tracks but only one instrument track at a time. That is maddeningly inconvenient.

 
Okay, now I get what you don't understand. As it says in the documentation:
 
"Quick Groups only affect tracks of the same type (Audio or MIDI)." It specifies Audio or MIDI, not Simple Instrument tracks. This is because Quick Grouping works on only a single track type. A simple instrument track, which I presume you're using instead of a split instrument track, combines two track types - MIDI and audio - within a single virtual track. 
 
The documentation also describes what happens with Instrument tracks: "For instrument tracks, the relevant controls [are] treated as belonging to an Audio or MIDI track." So for example, if you vary audio volume in the console and quick group with an instrument track, its audio volume will change. The only reference to Quick Grouping with Instrument tracks is controls, not the Edit Filter (for the reason given above).
 
The solution is simple. Right-click on the Simple Instrument track number or track icon, and choose "Split Instrument Track." This separates the track into separate audio and MIDI tracks (which I prefer anyway, but that's a different topic). Now they are eligible for Quick Grouping.
 
If this was one of the "problems" you reported that you expected support to answer, admittedly they could have said "You don't understand how Simple Instrument Tracks and Quick Grouping works, please read the documentation" but as has been pointed out, support is not intended to provide "how to" support. Reporting this as a problem isn't really relevant. It's more along the lines of "how do I change the Edit Filter setting when using Simple Instrument tracks?" In any event, now you know why the approach you're taking can't work, and an approach that does work. Hopefully that will make your life easier.

bgl1
To all of you who are offering advice for the problems I've experienced with Cakewalk Sonar Platinum:
 
1. I appreciate the desire to help me solve the 2 overarching problems that I've experienced. These are not obscure problems. They are much needed functions that are listed in the manual that are not working on my system. Asus laptop, Windows 8.1, 16gig RAM, i7 (3rd generation) processor, M-Audio Fast Track Pro set to Wave 16bit/44.1k, Sonar Platinum 22.7.0.
 
2. These are not problems that have not been addressed by Cakewalk Tech Support. They've logged into my system a few times in the late winter and early spring and never solved these issues. My sessions are rather large and full of synth and fx plugs. Using lanes helps but they suck up so much screen real estate that I really do want to be able to view automation without using lanes.
 
3. I can switch my view filter across multiple audio tracks but only one instrument track at a time. That is maddeningly inconvenient. I appreciate all the advice I've gotten from so many people over the years, but with my current "fat" sessions, some well needed AND PROMISED functionality has never worked for me...nor for Techs who've logged in tried it for themselves, AND, written up but never addressed these issues. I'm sure you understand my frustration. I've got more work to do and I've always gotten through with "work-arounds" and that's not right.
 
4. Mr. Anderton, I will never be your boss. Receiving good advice...fantastic. Bossing you....nope.
 
Bruce
 

I have not tired either of your problems.  Have others reported the same?  If so, it isn't something you should expect to get "technical support " on it just gets added to the bug fixes pile.
 
I understand the frustration, but neither of your issues sound like absolute show stoppers, like the program won't let you create music, etc.
 
Good luck, but I think your thread is entirely inappropriate for the level of problem you are having with the software.  

Mr. Anderton: This just may be the first bit of advice that might point me in a radically different direction...because yes, I have been using simple instrument tracks alongside the audio tracks for the past 8 or 9 months.
 
And I thank you for sending me in for a little more individualized Sonar training that might actually lead me somewhere. (I really have lots more to accomplish in the next few months and it will involve as many audio tracks and instrument tracks together, again.)
 
Mr. Anderton: My next question regards my reading from you in PAiA catalogs when I used to build their synthesizers while still in high scool. Perhaps a private message, I think. Did you contribute to those catalogs in the late 70's? That might be where I first encountered your name...as well as Larry Fast, who I think was also a contributor.
 
 

One down. Let me know when you want to tackle your bouncing issues. Feel free to change the title again 

Thanks, Mr. Anderton.
Title to this Forum Thread is changed. Please let me know if the new title is acceptable to you and other forum viewers and managers.
I will gladly discuss internal bouncing issues with you, but should that be on a different thread? If so, how may I alert you?
Bruce

Hey, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Glad to help!
 
Start a new thread called "Bouncing Issues - Can Anyone Help?"
 
Be very precise/clear about the exact nature of the problem, the context (project, system, etc.) and we'll figure it out.
 
Bouncing can get complicated but once you know a couple crucial things, it becomes routine. And if there is a particular situation that causes a problem, we can provide steps to reproduce so it gets fixed.

I just found a nearly new copy of Craig's book "Home Recording For Musicians". I bought it for $2 (and it still has the little floppy record inside).
------- "Doubling a vocal line can make a voice sound stronger" ----------- What a voice. Ah, the memories come flooding back.

I don't know if this has been discussed - I didn't read every post - but I would think it would be natural with Cakewalk's push for new customers and the lure of "forever" updates to bring in a stream of newbies.  There seems to be a lot of threads along the lines of "my computer doesn't do anything - do I need to turn it on" (not to dis newbies - we were all there at some point)?  I don't know if it was bad luck, an evil plan or just part and parcel of the timing with all the "new" aspects of SONAR coincided with the influx of new customers requiring more help.
 
Cake has said they lost some people, have hired more tech support people and are training them.  I tend to believe people and companies unless they have lied to me directly, since most of my problems have turned out to be operator error.  That is the first place I tend to look for problems when I, or others, have problems.  And here we have Gibson's "chief magic officer" tech supporting on an open forum.  That ain't bad. 
 
Of course, none of that helps if you have a non-functioning DAW.  So maybe the squeaky wheel does get the gears of support rolling.
 
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backwoods

slyman

bitman
 
I've never call Cakewalk once in all the years I've used it.
Got all my help here.

Same here. 

ditto!

Roger that here too !

The folks here are some of the best users of Daw and computer tweaking I have found, and the Data base of help is endlessly growing into the new...Mr G. Aderton's Help is good help...When it works for those trying to get the system up and running without issues...and is always at the news end of things coming, or being worked on.
Although I taunt the Forums with nothing but windows MS crap....and always trying the cutting edge of futile setups to reduce issues with Audio devices, and daw interactions....It is always someone else at fault, and point the finger to third and fourth , and user flaws..or bad conflicts with add ons and such of differing natures.
 
No one can solve for a constant change of unknown variables...it is impossible to do...unless all variables are known to be stable...In the PC domain, this is always thorted by MS and other applications changing things of the base platform, or working conditions to allow for something else, not foreseen as it changes.
 
So, if tweaking is the best way to control and keep things working, as they should, if so claimed it does do, when achieved, or achieving ...Turn off all auto updates, and unplug your machine from the internet, so nothing changes.
And see what is running behind the cloaked Desktop, and in service just before you do that control panel shut down of net and wi fi..if so needing to secure a stable platform.
 
As for internet.
 
Open Dos  command Prompt
type: netstat 3
any number after netstat   is the amount of seconds between checks..... it will check your ports in the above every three seconds.
And see what is sending, and what is trying to ping...and such.
 
Now about bandwidth...which the user pays for....If these entities using your internet bandwidth, are taking your info for marketing, or other reasons without permission...and sending it on your paid bandwidth...or they are using your computer when ever they need a hub to send or receive data to and from..Your local, and from it,...It can be used for , and against you also...and they are not paying or helping pay your bills...Just finding ways to bill you, or sell you, or hold you accountable to...Possible infections, or mayhem..through your IP.
 
Please be advised...Anti Virus can help, but is not proven to stop any virus attacks, or deplyment, or sabotage, or changing setting without your approval..if so remotely entering your domain via these ports of access...and new viruses will not be detected if the Antigen is not listed in the protection node software, and can go unseen or detected for long periods of time...if well routed into apps.
 
So...when the Military (Clinton's hinting madness of, is put into play of cyber attacks) on a Military internet made for communications if a Nuclear attack happens, that is now almost world wide in scope...(was it's intent to bring about the spy method onto all users?) now used to employ spy ware on the masses of users to invade the homes of many....One must ask, whom is wanting to know about so many people's doings, in that military and why?....or is it false market data collection to sway market economics?..and have underhanded knowledge to make money off of that data, and surplant false shares in or on...?
 
Prudence eh?
 
Now about legal privacy...My home is not a war zone.
I thought in my country I was given grace and Privacy as a way of living...in Trust.
 
Peace...and hopefully one day health...for all living things.
 
Is that just a pipe dream?....if they set to setup ruin of many via these back doors...and what trust, if no trust?...and why the paranoid Propaganda  being uttered in 2nd dibate, about internet threats coming to be another need for national security?... by President hopeful H Clinton?...and yet, the very system is spying and taking data without permission...used to make profits and gains off of....knowledge of buying and selling of the masses.
 
Do Us users ever see a dime of that as in kick backs?...oh no, just more tax and higher prices to gain more tax, and more taxes devised to make more warfare and terror be....so it can be...and so it is....eh?
 
Just thinking out loud.
 
Blessings to the Good ones!...keep doing the good ,and help take down the paranoid delusions made, and sur planted in the ears, minds and hearts, who hear them say , and also do unthinkable attrosities, to make war be too high a price to continue with making be.....(it does cost the tax payer trillions)......nothing in the dark a good light cannot dispell....and a good deed to those whom hate...may turn to reason it out, so no threat is seen!
 
See how this is being imposed...now if the beast keeps being fed...and is fed...federal tax and duty, and or donations...and data to fix the markets to slanted gains...as it is, or may be used for....Then the end of this will be tragically Hippo critical hypocrisy of amended rights!
 
teaching how to make war, sell war, and protect from war...is big business!
wonder why...if we all want peace, health and happiness...is a wonderment to mint tea?..damned another variable no doubt to add in to the cup?
 
Keep it simple, Keep in mind what these things can be...and make em good..or better...will be blessed if so done!
 
Regards!
 
Sir Les.