scook
Please tell the authors of the Bakery.

Done! The grammar police have spoken.

Ok... I admit I only read the first page of responses so far, but after taking a quick look at the Bakery forum, I was not intrigued and don't understand it's purpose.

From some things I just read, I'm hoping the intention is not to rep,ace the current forums, but augment them?

Please?

Now back to reading more...

Interesting...

I still don't like/use the start screen, but I'm very happy that it satisfies others without bothering me... ;-)

Talk about change?

I remember this same talk before the cakewalk forum was opened. Back then I think we were simply a news group? Many were apprehensive of the change to the newly popular "forum" softwares as we were so comfortable...

...it wasn't long before the news group was not even mentioned as the forums (even with their limitations/issues) as the forums quickly surpassed the earlier system.

I don't know if lightning ever truly does st Ike twice in the same place, but I'll give it a try as I can. Especially if both remain available for an extndedrossover and adjustment?

Mr Passive Drift ( Dave) writes:  
But every new future or fix  have created new problems for other older features... that's a fact. 
 
Hmmm,
I normally avoid responding to "rant" posts" but somehow I feel this one needs addressing. 
First, why are you posting that on this thread, I fail to see it's relevance to a thread about forums,, 
 
Edit- OK I see now ,, the Bakers should be fixing bugs, not sitting around thinking of more ways to market Sonar.. 
 
But  which apparently is not the same people who write the code for Sonar ( thank heavens) are in charge of the Bakery project.. 
 
2nd, I totally agree with mr anderton that most of us are using Sonar without issues anymore... .. Every time something didn't work it was always me and piolet error. ( and scook always bails me out.)  I have good hardware,  Sonar is solid as anything else out there which doesn't say much eh  
 
In Canada we call them  " Perques"  
 
 
Update, I see you posted at same time as me so your response below is out of sequence now.. Oh well such is life on the internet  I'm a slow typer. 
 
 
 

Anderton
Seriously, if you're having random, constant issues with Platinum you may be looking in the wrong place for a solution. I put SONAR Platinum through its paces almost every day for hours and don't have problems. Period. The most I'll get is a freeze from a 32-bit plug-in trying to be happy in a 64-bit world, and even that is rare.
 
Bottom line: We're using the same software. We're NOT using the same hardware. Logic would dictate that the reason for my having a great experience and you having a bad one lies in the elements we don't have in common, not the ones we do.
 
[Edit] Actually maybe we aren't using the same software. Are you using ASIO4ALL?

I'm not even mad about this, I'm just how it is... What "this post is about" bothers me when I have issues and the bakers are playing with a forum editor for a lam at best idea, and considering maybe 30% of the features and ideas that have been presented now have been implemented. Why would they not want to work on those.
But what I see is that the Bakers are starting to work on a new DAW and want all the new feature ideas to put into that. its simple logic... in order to implement many of the ideas I had asked for and seen up here. You have to start with a new foundation. So new DAW.  Whirl pool did the same thing in the 80s so they could replace people with robots... I call it bate and switch. Sure I will tell you how a disabled person can do my job in a hi level of detail, then Whirl pool could hire disabled people. Yea, the other employees thought I was nuts... but within a few years they where all out of work...
I really wont mind if CW offers a new DAW but they better fix this one "this time" before moving on... CW has never done that...
 
I'm using Tascam 1800 and 1200 (win 8.1) with newest ASIO drivers on two systems and Lexicon Alpha with ASIO newest Drivers on my portable system. (Win 10)
 
Now if 2016 9 worked with my Tascam 1800 and then 2016 10 timing is off by many seconds, that's a sonar issues and after rolling back it works again... that's splat issues. 32 bit freeze is that like the Bit Bridge?
And my random issues come and go as Spat versions change... I just noticed now that the pause button will hang the system. I did put up my recent issues that I remember., Some are new some have been ongoing. 
and that's the facts. and I can spend hours working in Sonar with no issues. But it depends on what I'm working on.
Bottom line is, in reality your using far beyond system requirements to run Sonar. I'm even above "system requirements." So why issues that no one else gets? and you can check my issues here well in regard to Splat. I admit if its me or find a work around. and there are still things that just don't work for no reason. they are posted as well. also if I didn't care about the future of CW I would just move on. BUT I want this DAW to take off!
But if it doesn't work, people will know it and not buy! I don't just come here to make up stuff! these are real issues! It's not like I'm new to this, and yup I only use what I need. But considering the amount of problems I have only using 20% of Splat. seems like a lot to me. Record analog / Edit / Mix / Master...
But I'll tell you right now that these system requirements wont cut it. IMO:
Software TypeDAWPlatformPCUpgrade/FullFullDownload/BoxedDownloadBit Depth32-bit/64-bitFormatVSTSupported Audio FormatsASIO compatibleHardware Requirements - PC2.6GHz Intel/AMD Multi-core processor or higher, 4GB RAM minimumOS Requirements - PCWindows 7 or later

Cactus Music
Mr Passive Drift ( Dave) writes:  
But every new future or fix  have created new problems for other older features... that's a fact. 
 
Hmmm,
I normally avoid responding to "rant" posts" but somehow I feel this one needs addressing. 
First, why are you posting that on this thread, I fail to see it's relevance to a thread about forums,, 
Nothing wrong with ****ing about Sonar,, lots do,, but we are here to comment on the Bakery which apparently is not the same people who write the code for Sonar( thank heavens) 
 
2nd, I totally agree with mr anderton that most of us are using Sonar without issues anymore... .. Every time something didn't work it was always me and scook always bails me out. I have good hardware,  Sonar is solid as anything else out there.  end of un-rant. 
 
In Canada we call them  " Perques"  
 
 
Update, I see you posted at same time as me so your responce below is out of sequence now.. Oh well such is life on the internet  I'm a slow typer. 

lol, yea, well some believe that speaker placement is important as well... (complement)
but some are just that good... and making backing tracks to sing along too is not what I'm doing. when you have 12 - 14 mics setup recording drums and in the past and you are using tHS8 on an old computer without issues, then try to do the same thing on a new system and software... its a problem for me when the metronome wont even keep time. and BTW I was not the only one with the problem. CW did nothing to fix it! or when you are mixing and you have to deleted and re install a buss because they randomly stop working... same thing I'm not the only one.... Maybe fix stuff before asking for more ideas that will brake something else.
 that's it... My DAW is unstable... for what I need it to do... you know, what its support do...

I would be surprised if you had not heard this before Passive Drift, but one glaring point I would comment on is that you seem to still be using 32bit plugins in Sonar X64 via bit bridge.  This is hit and miss at best. Since changing over to exclusively 64bit plugins in a 64bit environment Sonar has been rock solid for me. Give it a try and see what happens.

tenfoot
I would be surprised if you had not heard this before Passive Drift, but one glaring point I would comment on is that you seem to still be using 32bit plugins in Sonar X64 via bit bridge.  This is hit and miss at best. Since changing over to exclusively 64bit plugins in a 64bit environment Sonar has been rock solid for me. Give it a try and see what happens.

I just looked and I have one 32 bit VST (Mic Mod) installed though I have the 64 bit version installed as well...
A surprise to me as well. ;)  
 
EDIT: I should point out that this ^ is on my Win 10 system (the one that crashed out of Splat) yesterday when closing a plugin... So it's not the bit bridge if I was using 64 bit plugs... :)  

I do mostly make backing tracks,, but I also record our band live using 13 tracks and midi. It has always worked. And that's on a 2 core 2008 Laptop with 4 Gigs of RAM. SSD and W7.   And that is recording whole 1 hour sets non stop.  
I then dump them to my main DAW and go at it with plug ins etc. Always works...
Last blue screen I had was caused by a bad Video driver. It's all about good hardware and knowing the limitations of what it can do. And I'll agree that Sonar has some little bugs,, they just know better than to bug me...:) 

So, how about that Bakery guys?