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2016/11/20 17:00:36
konradh
There are multiple threads about adding outputs to Kontakt and I have looked at tutorials on NI's site, but I am missing something fundamental.  Perhaps someone can help.  Here is what I want to do:
 
- Load one instance of Kontakt in Sonar
- Load two instruments into Kontakt
- Route the two instruments to two separate tracks in Sonar.
 
When I add outputs to Kontakt I still only have one track in Sonar and I am not clear on the different to Kontakt in outputs and channels.
 
Can someone tell me how to accomplish what I am describing above?  The reason is that my copy of Sonar stops outputting audio after 7-9 VIs, despite my CPU power and memory.
 
 
2016/11/20 17:42:46
ralf
In Kontakt, you set one instrument to ouput st. 1, the other to output st. 2. Instruments should be on Midi channel 1 and 2 by default.

In Sonar, you create an additional Audio track and set input to Kt.St2/Kt.St2R Stereo of Kontakt. The initial Kontakt audio track defaults to st. 1. The same for Midi, where you have to create an additional Midi track in Sonar with output set to Kontakt channel 2, and the initial Midi track has to be set to channel 1. Not sure, but it should work the same if you use a combined instrument track initially.
2016/11/20 17:44:58
John
Be sure that you have all audio outputs checked in the properties dialog when you load Kontakt. The other thing I would advise is create a mixer within Kontakt that is set the way you want and save it to be recalled when you start Kontakt. Plus Kontakt comes in 3 output versions 8 16 and 32. You may need to edit its friendly name to show which is which. 
2016/11/20 19:10:41
Klaus
John
Be sure that you have all audio outputs checked in the properties dialog when you load Kontakt. The other thing I would advise is create a mixer within Kontakt that is set the way you want and save it to be recalled when you start Kontakt. Plus Kontakt comes in 3 output versions 8 16 and 32. You may need to edit its friendly name to show which is which. 




All good advice but with one little addition:
You can always start with "First Synth Audio Output" even if you load the Kontakt 32 stereo/64 mono plug-in version and you are still be able to add more outputs afterwards by adding a new audio track and routing its input to Kontakt.
 
All Kontakt's outputs - 8, 16, or 64 (depending on the version you inserted) are always available independent from what you choose in "Insert Soft Synth Options".
 
2016/11/23 17:44:23
konradh
Thanks, guys!  This sounds pretty straightforward and I will give it a shot this week-end.
2016/11/23 19:21:47
thedukewestern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGH2A9xKfw     Here's a video I made outlining exactly this!
2016/11/23 22:32:14
konradh
Thanks for the video!  Awesome, excellent, and totally tubular, dude.
2016/11/26 05:50:02
Steve_Karl
John
Be sure that you have all audio outputs checked in the properties dialog when you load Kontakt. The other thing I would advise is create a mixer within Kontakt that is set the way you want and save it to be recalled when you start Kontakt. Plus Kontakt comes in 3 output versions 8 16 and 32. You may need to edit its friendly name to show which is which. 


You've nailed it here.
The only thing I'd add is *I think* the only one worth working with is the 64 out version (32 stereo)
so I disabled the other 2 in Sonar.
Also, since Kontakt can only do 16 midi channels as a vsti - - -
I built a 16 stereo pairs st.1 through st.16 mixer in Kontakt and set it to be the default every time Kontakt loads and everything has been really easy since then.
Finally, I create templates in Sonar.
1) Project template that is called Kontakt 16
2) 5 track templates K1, K2, K3, K4, K5 so I can easily add an other instace of Kontakt and have the bus routing correct for each additional instance.
My project and track templates have 16 midi channels and 16 stereo audio channels all correctly assigned to that specific instance of Kontakt, all in folders named like "K5 1 Midi" / "K5 1 Audio" so all I need to do is either load a Kontakt multi that has the audio outs for each instrument already assigned, or load instruments one at a time and change the audio out for each instrument.

An other helpful thing I discovered is that we can highlight the title of a Kontakt Instrument in Kontakt,
Hit CTRL+C to copy the name, and then CTRL+V to paste the name into the midi and audio track that instrument uses.


2016/11/26 09:57:32
Zargg
thedukewestern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGH2A9xKfw     Here's a video I made outlining exactly this!


Thanks for this video 
2016/11/26 11:13:49
ZincTrumpet
thedukewestern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGH2A9xKfw     Here's a video I made outlining exactly this!




I found this useful too, many thanks.
 
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