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2016/11/23 07:36:17
richardskeltmusic
When I try to drag a clip from one location to another within a track, the result is very unpredictable. Once I have re-positioned the clip I find that other clips in the track have changed, some times truncated sometimes extended.  Here is an actual example:
1) I have some audio from bar 7:00:00 to 24:00:00 it is a single clip - not assembled from a bunch of takes - bounced to a single clip to make sure
2) I split the audio clip in two at 20:00:00. I now have two clips A and B: A runs from bar 7 to bar 20, B runs from bar 20 to 24:00:00
3) If I drag clip B from 20 to bar 21 all fine.
4) If instead I drag clip  B from 20:00:00 to bar 2, clip A shortens so that it now ends at bar 12 rather than bar 20 - so that rather than being 14 bars long it is now 7 bars long, on play back there is silence beyond bar 12 - so it isn't just a screen thing.
5) if instead I drag clip A from 7:00:00 to bar 3, clip B extends out to bar 37 , so is now 18 bars long, and a new blank bar appears at 38 which is 21:00:040 (!) long.
 
Basically the long and short of this is that it does not seem possible to move a clip in a track without affecting the other clips in the track.  I upgraded from 8.5 to Platinum when I bought a new laptop, and just went back to my old laptop just to reassure myself that you still are able to move clips around freely in 8.5 - which you are.   It isn't just Audio, I get similar weirdness with MIDI clips.
 
This is really frustrating because moving clips around to try different arrangements was a key part of my songwriting workflow in 8.5 (and all the way back to 4.0 when I started with Sonar).
 
So what changed?  And what do I do I need to be doing in my work flow to get this to work predictably?
 
Cheers!
Richard
 
64 bit Sonar Platinum 2016.10/Windows 8/Steinberg UR44
 
 
2016/11/23 07:41:35
chuckebaby
Moving/dragging clips is working fine here.
a little more info might help. Are these groove clips ? what kind of Audio clips are they ?
have you tried / as a test: another Audio clip ?
 
 
2016/11/23 08:59:09
richardskeltmusic
These are standard audio clips.  To answer your question I have just recorded some handclapping in a single take, and also taken the frozen waveform from Rapture - same result.  I don't generally use grooveclips.  
This has been going on since I started on Platinum last year, but I have now got to the point where I am just not prepared to carry on like this...
2016/11/23 10:17:35
scook
What is the setting for Preferences > Customization > Editing "Drag and Drop - What to do with existing material:"
2016/11/23 11:28:12
richardskeltmusic
Slide over old to make room:  after a few drags this is what I get
 

2016/11/23 11:29:21
scook
That is what I thought. The setting has not worked properly in some time, choose one of the others.
2016/11/23 11:42:36
richardskeltmusic
OK thanks - that works.  Your help is much appreciated.
 
If it doesn't work WHY do they leave it in?  I don't remember setting this - assume it came as some sort of default through the upgrade process.   Not the sort of thing that leads one to recommend the software.
2016/11/23 11:45:27
scook
It is not the default setting. Cakewalk recommends against applying old settings when upgrading.
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