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2016/11/12 11:58:04
Cactus Music
I had no clue what DPE was.. So I opened Sonar Preferences and after a few minutes found it. But I'm keeping it to myself.. I've never used it having no clue what it would do. Now I see what it does and I think I'll continue not checking it. 
2016/11/12 12:20:17
Beepster
tcolton5
I just tried Vocal Sync for the first time and I got an audio explosion in my head I'll never forget.  It sounded a lot like taking a reverb unit and slamming it on the ground and turning it up to 11.  This is a real problem!




I know this is an old post in an old thread and I've mentioned this before (in other threads) but that sound of a "reverb unit being slammed into the ground" can be avoided by disabling all downstream reverb while you work with VocalSync. So if you have reverb on the track turn it off, if a bus being fed by it has reverb disable that, if you are using a dedicated reverb bus (via Sends) disable the reverb send(s) on the tracks you are syncing.
 
What seems to happen is that when VocalSync does its "sonic boom" thing it hits the reverb which then of course sustains the level spike. It's horrific. If no reverb is being fed by the tracks being "synced" then the volume spikes are MUCH shorter and pretty much just sound like crackles. Very LOUD crackles but they are so fast they aren't nearly as traumatizing.
 
At least that was my experience.
 
VS is a cool enough idea but after playing with it I've just decided to manually do any syncing with Audiosnap instead. VS simply doesn't work very well on the type of material I generally produce and the sonic booms are just too obnoxious for me to bother with it.
 
Cheers.
2016/11/13 20:12:33
dcmg
I had that happen recently as well...the worst part is I had one of those snooty ProTools gurus in the room while it happened. He loves to pontificate on the virtues of PT/Elastic Audio/ Vocalign.
He witnessed that horrific blast and gave me THAT look.....
 
I love Sonar ( been here since ProAudio7) but sometimes it troubles me that I have to defend it in situations like that ( "I swear, this doesn't happen often!) :) 
2016/11/18 03:29:32
GregGraves
I never have had this problem, use it all the time, and have never checked the DPE box.
 
So I checked the DPE box and used VS.  No problems.
 
Is this your scenario?  You have two vocal tracks, A and B.  You use VS to set up a region on B, but you never tell it to reference A, and then hit play?  Is that when the explosion happens?  If yes, I'd think that explainable by VS trying to match up B to the drums, bass, or nothing at all.  When I'm driving and let go of the wheel, I typically crash.
2016/11/18 13:33:19
dcmg
GregGraves
I never have had this problem, use it all the time, and have never checked the DPE box.
So I checked the DPE box and used VS.  No problems.
Is this your scenario?  You have two vocal tracks, A and B.  You use VS to set up a region on B, but you never tell it to reference A, and then hit play?  Is that when the explosion happens?  If yes, I'd think that explainable by VS trying to match up B to the drums, bass, or nothing at all.  When I'm driving and let go of the wheel, I typically crash.



Can't answer for others, but in my case, no.
I read manuals and watch CW instructional vids before using a feature, so using it as intended.
Seems random, no pattern. Most of the time, it works for me just fine.
 
2016/11/18 14:20:25
bapu
GregGraves
When I'm driving and let go of the wheel, I typically crash.

And so say us all.
 
And so say us all.
2016/11/18 20:12:37
chuckebaby
Add me to that list as well "Never had this happen".
I will see artifacts if I crank up the synch knob to high but like anything else in life... Things tend to get Funky when you juice it too much.
2016/11/18 21:42:48
MacFurse
chuckebaby
Things tend to get Funky when you juice it too much.



think I'm going to cut and paste that above my console Chuck. Most helpful quote of the week I say !!
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