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2016/10/31 04:40:24
kovat53
Hi Forum,
I am new to Forum
i have just purchased my Behringer X-Touch and Sonar Platinum Lifetime. I am in learning phase, I am testing (LEARNING) all of the functions step-by-step. Of course I put X-touch into MC mode. 
I noticed, M2 hold pressed with Record button doesn't bring Recording Option window. Any other button combinations seems to work fine.
It would highly appreciated if anyone could help me.
 
Thanks for any answer. kovat53
2016/10/31 05:59:03
azslow3
It normally opens "Preferences/Project/Record" settings in a separate dialog. Works in X2, I can not check with SPlat now.
2016/10/31 06:35:29
fireberd
Tried it on my X-Touch and Sonar Platinum.  M2 and Record (on a track) did nothing.
2016/10/31 11:28:58
kovat53
Thanx for all replies!
Yes, it should open the Preferences/Project/Report windows, but does not.
If you don't mind, after testing all of the functions, I would publish my influence.
Meanwhile I have found some other differences between the action of the written and real button combinations.
These aren't big issues, but exist.
Anyway I love how Sonar an X/Touch work together. 
BRs
2016/10/31 22:45:59
Traveler
Mute automation doesn't seem to work on X-Touch - which is a bummer.
2016/11/01 04:52:58
azslow3
Traveler
Mute automation doesn't seem to work on X-Touch - which is a bummer.

Mute automation in Sonar works with special "Automatable mute" only. MackieControl works with normal "Mute" only.
2016/11/08 12:51:37
kovat53
Hi Forum,
as I promised, after the learning curve I have found the following differences between the written and real button combinations:
M1 with Fit Tracks --> does nothing (should show all tracks)
M2 with Fit Tracks --> brings a pop-up window for track selection (should show only selected tracks)
M3 with Fit Tracks --> does nothing (should show and fit selection)
M4 with Fit Tracks --> does nothing (should hide selected tracks)
M2 with Record --> clears All Automations Write enable (should show Recording Option dialog)
M3 + Display/Name/Value clears display under Value buttons.
 
Perhaps the new firmware will bring solution.
 
 
2016/11/08 14:02:38
Kronosman
Just out of curiosity, are you using the Sonar overlay on your X-touch? The standard labels on the X-touch do not invoke the correct functions in Sonar.
2016/11/08 14:03:38
Jesse G
Here is the video from YouTube about getting the X Touch to work with Sonar.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8VO1vpc7U
 
Enjoy
2016/11/08 15:25:37
azslow3
kovat53
Hi Forum,
as I promised, after the learning curve I have found the following differences between the written and real button combinations:
M1 with Fit Tracks --> does nothing (should show all tracks)
M2 with Fit Tracks --> brings a pop-up window for track selection (should show only selected tracks)
M3 with Fit Tracks --> does nothing (should show and fit selection)
M4 with Fit Tracks --> does nothing (should hide selected tracks)
M2 with Record --> clears All Automations Write enable (should show Recording Option dialog)
M3 + Display/Name/Value clears display under Value buttons.
 
Perhaps the new firmware will bring solution.

Whole X-Touch functionality is exactly as it should, nothing has to be corrected in the firmware.
The whole "magic" happens in the software (more precisely, in the Sonar MackieControl plug-in).
"Fit Tracks" just "press" normal keyboard key:
(without modifiers) - F
M1 - A
M2 - H
M3 - Shift+S
M4 - Shift+H
These bindings have changed (except "F") since the documentation was written for ancient Sonar version. But you can set them in preferences as you want.
 
"Record" with modifiers call no longer official "commands" (depending on version, they do not work)
 
M3 -Name/Value in the documentation: "toggle the disabling of LCD updates". I guess it still does that.
 
As was mentioned, do not forget to use correct overlay: http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?9278-X-Touch-and-Sonar&p=69850&viewfull=1#post69850
The result should be like:

 
If you want to understand what all buttons do with all modifiers: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,250.0.html
During installation, do NOT set Input/Output to X-Touch, set both to "None" (till you are going to use it INSTEAD of MackieControl, which will bring you ACT dynamic mapping but also a ton of bugs in general functionality...). Open preferences, initialize "Mack.." preset, switch to the "Logic" tab. Here you can select any button in the "Logic control" to see what it is doing (the preset mirroring original MackieControl functionality, was created to test how hard that is but was never tested since I do not have Mackie devices and there was no other volunteers).
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