The pan laws in the mixer are fixed as also if you create a stereo buss, its pan law will also be -3 dB.  The idea is you use Dual Pan to change it in the areas needed.  Might only be one or two. 
 
One way to check how pan laws sound would be to either in a mix or in solo create an automated pan sequence over a cycle of bars e.g. 4 bars.  Panning might start centre, travel left, hold, swing back through centre to the other side and maybe rest back to centre.  The automation could be cut and pasted over a number of cycles.  Then place a part onto that track.  A sequence in electronic music for example would be ideal.  The initial pan centre volume of the part must be set with the mix everything in. And not moving. 
 
Set up Dual Pan on the track and select different pan laws and maybe hear the variations in volume over the sequence cycle. Start by soloing the part and listen to the movement of it through the cycle carefully.  Bring everything else back in and now listen.  I bet with everything in, the pan laws might sound even more pronounced.
 
Some pan laws may cause the part to loose volume in the mix quickly as it moves from centre to its first destination e.g. left.  How the volume of the part hangs in there from a full swing from left to right for example.  Other laws will keep the part volume more audible over longer parts of the cycle.  Some laws may even make the part too loud in some parts of the cycle too.  Meaning then that the overall part level may need to be reset to suit the louder parts of the panning.
 
I love moving things around.  In electronic music it is very powerful and fun thing to do.  If you have got right speaker setup even live it can sound spectacular.  Recently just got the Waves Brauer Motion plugin which does all of this  (and a lot more like setting up two panning motions at once!! This is really something to hear)  It can also create the illusion of the circular panning motion happening around your head. In a very sophicasted manner.  I am sure the tonal response of the signal is also moving in a circular manner too.  
 
There are some very cool plug-ins now that specialise in a lot of spacial movement.  They all install and work perfectly inside Studio One of course.  All their parameters can be easily automated.  Studio One makes it painless to automate every single parameter of every plugin usually including mute on and off too.  Mapping parameters to any of your controller devices is also painless as well.

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SylvanI see. Is there a way to change the default pan law overall in Studio One? Or is the -3dB just hard-wired in?

It seems the -3dB is hard-wired, but I´m not 100% sure - I purchased S1 just yesterday.
Anyway it doesn´t matter because you always mix the way you want with new songs in S1 - and you automatically compensate whatever the pan law is without thinking about it. You can also fix minor difference with old songs imported to S1 with M/S eq.


 

Yes indeed. Thank you for that info. 

dubdisciple
This ended up being a very informative thread

I learned quite a bit. This was an excellent thread. Many thanks to the OP and apologies for hijacking it. But in the end, it was worth it.

Jeff Evans
The pan laws in the mixer are fixed as also if you create a stereo buss, its pan law will also be -3 dB.  The idea is you use Dual Pan to change it in the areas needed.  Might only be one or two. 
 
One way to check how pan laws sound would be to either in a mix or in solo create an automated pan sequence over a cycle of bars e.g. 4 bars.  Panning might start centre, travel left, hold, swing back through centre to the other side and maybe rest back to centre.  The automation could be cut and pasted over a number of cycles.  Then place a part onto that track.  A sequence in electronic music for example would be ideal.  The initial pan centre volume of the part must be set with the mix everything in. And not moving. 
 
Set up Dual Pan on the track and select different pan laws and maybe hear the variations in volume over the sequence cycle. Start by soloing the part and listen to the movement of it through the cycle carefully.  Bring everything else back in and now listen.  I bet with everything in, the pan laws might sound even more pronounced.
 
Some pan laws may cause the part to loose volume in the mix quickly as it moves from centre to its first destination e.g. left.  How the volume of the part hangs in there from a full swing from left to right for example.  Other laws will keep the part volume more audible over longer parts of the cycle.  Some laws may even make the part too loud in some parts of the cycle too.  Meaning then that the overall part level may need to be reset to suit the louder parts of the panning.
 
I love moving things around.  In electronic music it is very powerful and fun thing to do.  If you have got right speaker setup even live it can sound spectacular.  Recently just got the Waves Brauer Motion plugin which does all of this  (and a lot more like setting up two panning motions at once!! This is really something to hear)  It can also create the illusion of the circular panning motion happening around your head. In a very sophicasted manner.  I am sure the tonal response of the signal is also moving in a circular manner too.  
 
There are some very cool plug-ins now that specialise in a lot of spacial movement.  They all install and work perfectly inside Studio One of course.  All their parameters can be easily automated.  Studio One makes it painless to automate every single parameter of every plugin usually including mute on and off too.  Mapping parameters to any of your controller devices is also painless as well.

Thank you Jeff for taking the time to share all this info. Most excellent.

Jeff Evans
 
Null testing is also very cool and can be used in other ways too.  Like setting up a compressor.  As you know we have to often set up compressors over individual tracks or mixes. You can set up a parallel path and phase inversion so you only hear sound when the compressor acts on the  signal. When it is not doing anything you will hear silence.  So after setting all this up, you switch all that off and set up your compressor with audio present as per  normal.  But when you switch into the silent mode and only hearing it acting then, if you hear audio coming in and out in a very jerky manner then it means you can set your  compressor better.  Often by just refining your initial settings, you will get much snootier transitions as to how the sound comes in and goes away.  Once you get that nice, when you switch back to normal audio plus compressor operation, you will hear much nicer compression.  It will sound very musical and smooth and locked into the music much more.  More transparent too which we often want. 

Thanks for that Jeff
 
Great thread

Yes, great thread... over my head, but great thread!! wink
 
And a shout out to Sylvan also, who had the class to admit he was mistaken... stand up move!
 
Salud all!

Quick question, does studio one have a vocal align feature like platinum does? thanks 

highlandermak
Quick question, does studio one have a vocal align feature like platinum does? thanks 

Not built in as SONAR has. Studio One offers discounts on the VocalAlign plugin. Please see post #3 in the "Official Sonar to Studio One Help" thread on the Studio One forums which compares SONAR to Studio One.

So... in this thread, people discover maths?

Zo
For those that are in a most advanced stage ..... i use ARC and sonarworks and instead of messing with mutiple sub buses ....i found that in the mix down window you can check a box to mix without the master FX ...if you want t also have this feature to update the songs via project view after a tweak in sng view , you have at least to a mixdonw in the song view for this option to be remebered;)
For gain and phase , use Mixtool and expand it in channels ..... 
 
thinking of doing a video for Sonar switcher to make em master the essentials ....
 
it makes me laugh your opinion ... You always believe that what is good for you is good for everyone ...