To be honest I don't see the advantage to working with video in any DAW program. I use Sony pro 10 and magix 15 as my video programs, for the price though magix is very easy to use and is only 60 bucks. I spent 300 on the bloody sony and it doesn't give you near the flex that even gopro has and was free lol.

dannyjmusic
sliding the video forward and backwards is possible with WMV and AVI? How do I set that up in Sonar? Thanks for the help!

The VideoEngine parameter in AUD.ini
 
Configuring AUD.ini help http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=0x22B1C
AUD.ini help http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=INI_Files.6.html
and the original KB article about this http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013354/SONAR-X3d-Switching-between-Media-Foundation-and-DirectShow-Video-Engines

Brian Walton

Anderton

reberclark
The ability to slide the video track left and right freely would be an advantage as well.

Just an FYI - you can do that now, but only with the DirectShow media platform selected as the default, and with native Windows formats (AVI and WMV). 

Unfortunately those formats are dinosaurs for anyone even semi-pro in video.
 
Would love to see some updates to Sonar as it relates to working with video.  

Me too...but with Apple never getting around to doing 64-bit QuickTime, I think Cakewalk is dependent on Microsoft updating their video platform. 

On a more general note, I find the combination of Magix (nee Sony) Vegas and SONAR to be close to ideal. Sometimes I need to cut video to audio, sometimes audio to video and it's easy with the dual-program workflow. 
 
A recent trick I've gotten into is bringing the video into SONAR, creating stems, then bringing those into Vegas for final tweaking. I think SONAR will never be as capable with video as Vegas, and Vegas will never be as capable with audio as SONAR, so using the two keeps me happy 
 

Anderton
On a more general note, I find the combination of Magix (nee Sony) Vegas and SONAR to be close to ideal. Sometimes I need to cut video to audio, sometimes audio to video and it's easy with the dual-program workflow. 
 
A recent trick I've gotten into is bringing the video into SONAR, creating stems, then bringing those into Vegas for final tweaking. I think SONAR will never be as capable with video as Vegas, and Vegas will never be as capable with audio as SONAR, so using the two keeps me happy 
 

This is the way I have been working for some time and I believe, after my brief experimenting with DP, that you may be right! I am using Sony (Magix) Vegas 14 64 bit and SONAR X3 64 bit and it's a good workflow now that SONAR can handle mp4s. I can use Frans Absil's external program for estimating an ideal tempo as long as I have my frame rate in SONAR set to the video's frame rate. I have made my own streamers and punches in Vegas and rendered them out onto the video I'm working with - and that is no more effort than creating them in DP. So my conclusion is to stick with the SONAR/Vegas system for the foreseeable future. Thanks Craig and everybody!

I'm somewhat surprised you haven't upgraded past X3. With the recent improvements in efficiency, I have no problem keeping both SONAR and Vegas open at the same time...makes life easier when doing instructional videos. Mix Recall is also huge for me when doing soundtracks.

Anderton
I'm somewhat surprised you haven't upgraded past X3. With the recent improvements in efficiency, I have no problem keeping both SONAR and Vegas open at the same time...makes life easier.

That was one of the reasons I was considering moving to DP - where to put my money. I will probably go with the lifetime SONAR deal that Cakewalk is offering now instead of shelling out $350 for a crossgrade to DP.

This thread helped me make up my mind between SONAR and DP and saved me a $350.00 crossgrade fee. I went with the SONAR Platinum with Lifetime Updates and after launching it today I am impressed at how smooth the transition from X3 was - all of my settings etc (except for two folder locations) were intact and I was up and running very fast. Thanks to everybody who helped me hash out what to do. Cheers!

trgtdron
To be honest I don't see the advantage to working with video in any DAW program. I use Sony pro 10 and magix 15 as my video programs, for the price though magix is very easy to use and is only 60 bucks. I spent 300 on the bloody sony and it doesn't give you near the flex that even gopro has and was free lol.

If you want to actually Score and edit audio  to the video, it would be much better to do so within a DAW (if it was efficient with video).
 
I use one of the most respected video programs out there which was more in the $1000 range, it feels like a dinosaur when it comes to the audio side of things.  
 
Ever trying multi channel mixing and editing in a Video based program?  No thanks.