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  • Scoring video + MIDI sequencing + audio mixing in Sonar X3 Producer ??
2016/10/24 08:40:32
arcenson
Scoring editing..
So far I always used Sony Vegas to edit and render
all my video projects with success.
I've been doing the same for the audio projects
using Sonar X3 Producer as a dedicated MIDI sequencer
and audio tracks mix for all my audio editing.
Now the problem I face is that I just rendered a video
clip with no sound and I want to add audio to it
--> including MIDI sequences using VST instruments.
It looks like neather Vegas nor Sonar could do that job..
I know Sonar can import a video clip on one of its track
but there is no 'preview window' for that video to be used
when scoring so it's useless..
Any settings I'm missing that would solve my problem ?
Or another simple app to be used.. ?
2016/10/24 10:16:46
arcenson
 
Thanks Dan,
I'm not close to my DAW computer now but 2 questions:
 
-Does Sonar X3 pro accepts 4:3 and 16:9 videos ? if so what formats are accepted ?
 The only video format I've been able to import so far is a 4:3 .MPG video
 other types (AVI, MOV, M2V, etc..) gave me an popup error window..
 
-Is this possible to view the actual video playing in a separate 'preview window' within Sonar X3
  while listening its edited MIDI vst/audio tracks ? The track horizontal video pane does not show any 'moving' image
  while playing..
 
Thanks for your nice support..
2016/10/24 11:08:48
Steve_Karl
Vegas is the place to add your audio.
I've never had a problem adding audio to a video (that has no audio) in Vegas.

I'll use Vegas to prep a video clip for import to Sonar (was using X3 for a long time but just upgraded to Platinum)
Then finish the audio in Sonar, export as 48/24 and add it to the vegas project where the 'real' video resides.
I drop a lot of markers in Vegas so I know exactly the frame where the audio needs to start.
If there are any problems down the line where the audio might not be exactly where I want it in Vegas,
then I just slice and slide it into place.

There's no comparison, in my opinion, with attempting to do it in Sonar.
I consider it impossible to finalize a video in Sonar.
I only use sonar to reference the video and to create the score, and then finalize and render in Vegas.
 
P.S.
If you have any sync issues in Sonar make sure to import the audio from the video also, even is it doesn't contain any sound,
and do delete the blank audio track.
I've found that Sonar needs that blank audio track that is imported with the video to maintain time for the Video.
 
2016/10/24 11:14:35
brundlefly
I'll defer to Steve on the best way/place to do the job, but just for reference, Views > Video will give you the floating video window you're looking for in SONAR.
2016/10/24 11:40:38
Steve_Karl
2016/10/24 13:33:34
brundlefly
Steve_Karl
This one would allow Sonar to be considered a valid professional scoring tool.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Lock-clips-tracks-and-folders-to-markers-SMPTE-m3384138.aspx 



If you set the Timebase property of a clip to 'Absolute', it will maintain its SMPTE start time as tempo changes are made. Locking it would then be added insurance against having it move due to other editing operations. And if markers as also locked to SMPTE time, a clip with 'Absolute' timebase will effectively be locked to markers.
 
The only thing that can't be locked to SMPTE is the length/duration of a MIDI clip. If MIDI clip length is the problem (or also a problem), you should clarify that in the FR. I've requested a number of times in the past that setting Clip Timebase to Absolute would lock the absolute length of a MIDI clip as well as the start time; for a long time, the Ref. Guide erroneously indicated it would.
2016/10/24 13:54:03
Steve_Karl
Thanks brundelfly,

I've copied your post to my sonar_tips.txt file.
2016/10/24 14:31:32
arcenson
My original post was about Sonar X3 being able to do film/video scoring
from imported video file using MIDI/audio tracks .
The answer is yes.
My problem is still that after importing a video
into Sonar X3 and then doing VIEW > VIDEO
there is no video preview window poping up to check the video live
but there is a new video track that shows images.
I'm using a Win8.1 64bit system with 2 HDMI screens.
Maybe the 2 screens are the problem here... (??)
I'll have to figure it out.
2016/10/24 15:11:29
Steve_Karl
arcenson
 
there is no video preview window poping up to check the video live
 



Are you sure it's not in the multi dock and you're just not seeing it?
type a "D" on your keyboard and then SHFT+D to maximize and then also check the docking options
if you find it and you can then undock it.
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