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2016/10/11 11:38:15
chuckebaby
I used Soundforge for a long time as well. but I came to point where I was wondering ..is it really helping me, or doing more than I can already do in Sonar ?
my answer was No.
now everyone is different so I don't expect everyone to feel the same way I do.
 
I was really only using it to clean up noise, exc. for that I use Izotope RX 5.
Soundforge used to be one of my main tools. I mean I used it to Master for a few years back in the early 2000's.
It has just kind of become dated compared to some of the other tools we have now.
2016/10/11 11:51:57
scook
I still find it useful. I rarely call it from SONAR but did write a couple of utilities to make that task easier. One allowing SONAR to run normally and still call SoundForge (which must be run as administrator), RunAsAdmin. The other is a graphical front end to edit the registry SONARToolsEditor. Both are available here http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3392713
2016/10/11 11:56:16
Pragi
space_cowboy
Hi
I am a long time user of Soundforge to work on samples, fix misc stuff in audio takes, master...
 
Soundforge was sold by Sony to Magic corp.  I bought an amp sim from them ages ago and they never updated the software.  While I do not know it to be the case, I assume that they are going to "milk" soundforge and not reinvest in it.  
 
What else is out there?  Wavelab is way more than I need.  And I was a Cubase user for a while (VST 5.1-Cubase 3) and got to hate the company for a lack of support.  
 
I have tons of files from Soundforge, tho I think i have mostly rendered them to stereo audio tracks (at work and cannot look right now).  
 
Thanks


I hope that magix is not "milking " 
soundforge cause magix also bought Sony Vegas which was updated by magix
some weeks ago .
 
2016/10/11 11:58:38
Pragi
Here a post from the vegas hp :
 
From a news letter received and it seems the software guys are still in Madison. Pro 14 due in september.
 
VEGAS Pro is entering into a brand new era!

Since the acquisition of VEGAS Pro and other tools from Sony Creative Software, our entire development team in Madison, Wisconsin is working tirelessly to take video editing with VEGAS Pro to the next level.
This means that at the end of September 2016, you can look forward to the most advanced version of VEGAS Pro yet!
Here’s a sneak peek of some of the highlights and new features in the upcoming version:
» HEVC/H.265 support
» 4K Smart Upscaling
» Native ProRes support
» and much more!
Stay tuned for more updates and get ready for the all new VEGAS Pro 14.
Sincerely,
Klaus Schmidt
CEO MAGIX Software GmbH
2016/10/11 12:07:08
bapu
Yay! Maurice is back.
2016/10/11 12:09:28
Soundwise
space_cowboy
 Btw I don't see vandall on their site any longer. Bad sign for support.

It's there:
http://www.magix-audio.com/us/vandal/
2016/10/11 12:26:26
Cactus Music
 I started with a download of Wave Lab 4 way back in time around 2001, upgraded to 5. But 5 would not run on W7 64 so I bought Wave Lab Elements7 for $99 CAN.
It's is all you really need. Not even sure what is missing compared to the full $600 version but I guess it's a bunch of fancy mastering plug ins. 
I do have to use the Dongle but you can also use a software based eLicencer.
The dongle I actually great because I can swap it over to my Laptop without a hitch when I travel.
 
With Wave Lab, just like Sonar, you have to buy the MP3 encoder so I instead I bought Gold Wave for $59 lifetime upgrades. It comes with a great Batch convertor. It is actually a full featured editor but I'm just so used to Wave Lab it's hard to switch.
http://www.goldwave.ca/
 
 I have a copy of Sound Forge ( lite?)  that came with my Sony USB turntable and I use that to rip Vinyl.   It gave me a chance to try Sound Forge but I still find the way Wave lab works superior.
I like the way Wave Lab lets you open processing tools like Gain and the tool box stays open after you apply. Most software the tool box has to be re-opened again.
So I have 3 Wave editors in my DAW.
 
2016/10/11 12:26:47
pwalpwal
ocenaudio (https://www.ocenaudio.com/ ) is another option, as is wavosaur (http://www.wavosaur.com/ ), both freebies and both available as x64 - but do the feature sets meet your needs?
2016/10/11 20:04:04
southpaw3473
Cactus Music
With Wave Lab, just like Sonar, you have to buy the MP3 encoder so I instead I bought Gold Wave for $59 lifetime upgrades. It comes with a great Batch convertor. It is actually a full featured editor but I'm just so used to Wave Lab it's hard to switch.
http://www.goldwave.ca/

+1 for  Goldwave. I've been using it for years and it works really well.
2016/10/11 21:13:04
Anderton
Don't write off Magix. I've seen firsthand what's involved when one company buys another. The Roland/Gibson transition was unusually seamless, which in retrospect I think had a lot to do with both Roland and Henry Juszkiewicz wanting it to happen properly. However in many ways this was not the norm, and such transitions usually take longer to unfold and are more complex.
 
I was an expert witness for Magix once in a patent suit, they are a major force over in Europe and I suspect part of the Sony purchase was to establish more of a foothold over here. Magix has done well with their own video software but IMHO it's not quite up to the level of Vegas. So regardless of whether they develop Vegas independently or fold it into one of their programs, I suspect use Vegas users will be able to carry on with an evolving program. Now, if only they'd do lifetime updates...
 
As to Acid, I know of at least one other bid for it but it was rejected, so it seems Magix wants it...maybe to integrate more fully into video, I don't know. I have no idea what the plans are for Sound Forge. However...
 
I'm pretty much with Chuckebaby on this one. If you team up iZotope RX (and possibly Ozone) with SONAR, there's not much you can't do. More and more, I'm mastering in SONAR, and I keep pestering Cakewalk about how they could make SONAR a true mastering platform with what I think is not a lot of effort...we'll see what happens.
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