Yes, I was mistaken. I misinterpreted the straight line in the vectorscope as meaning "mono". Which would have been correct, had the straight line been vertical rather than horizontal! Duh.

bitflipper


Yes, I was mistaken. I misinterpreted the straight line in the vectorscope as meaning "mono". Which would have been correct, had the straight line been vertical rather than horizontal! Duh.

It did strike me as something like that.

I wasn't meaning to come across as cranky but what you were saying didn't add up against the L+R=Mid and L-R=Side equation.

Here's the recipe if you don't want to use a sledgehammer like Ozone to crack a simple nut.

1/ Create a blank project create one Audio Track for your stereo file.

2/ Route that track to a bus called 'Split', on this 'Split' bus insert an instance of MSED set it to Encode mode, pull the bus fader all the way down and set the output to 'None'.

3/ Create a send on this bus to a new bus which you can call 'Mid' pan the Send 100% left.  Create another Send to another new bus this time call it 'Side' pan the send 100% right and set both sends as pre-fade.

4/ Route both the 'Mid' and 'Side' outputs to yet another new bus called 'Merge'.  Put another instance of MSED in the FX bin on this bus again set to 'Decode' which will re-combine both signals.

From this template you can then import any stereo wav into the project and mute either the mid or side components, you can also perform any processing you like on the 'Mid' and 'Side' busses independently.

Just, make sure that the stereo interleave button is on throughout the signal chain otherwise the encoding/decoding won't work.

5 minutes to set up and you'll end up with a template to do your side listening (just mute the mid bus) or experiment with M/S processing techniques.

Great stuff Jon!

Thanks Jon, works like a charm!

Just one question, I imported a song and mid-bus is clipping and the merge-bus isn't?

Could be me though :)

"Jonbouy"
5 minutes to set up and you'll end up with a template to do your side listening (just mute the mid bus) or experiment with M/S processing techniques.

Ok hotshot, imma put that 5 minutes to the test. 

alexoosthoek


Just one question, I imported a song and mid-bus is clipping and the merge-bus isn't?

Could be me though :)

Don't forget the mid equation is L+R which will result in 6db of gain.

Although it will redline internally it won't clip when it's converted back on the merge bus and output.  But you can always turn your audio track down accordingly.

Also Channel Tools has gain controls built-in to cater for these things, some take it into account automatically which is less flexible...IMO

"Jonbouy"
Don't forget the mid equation is L+R which will result in 6db of gain.

Noticed the same here. I have to say that I am impressed with this method Jon. Have been analyzing some of Adele's tunes and it's quite revealing. A big thank you goes out to Bitflipper for bringing this up and Jon for the methodology on how to go about it. This is sweet... big time!

Jonbouy

alexoosthoek


Just one question, I imported a song and mid-bus is clipping and the merge-bus isn't?

Could be me though :)

Don't forget the mid equation is L+R which will result in 6db of gain.

Although it will redline internally it won't clip when it's converted back on the merge bus and output.  But you can always turn your audio track down accordingly.

Also Channel Tools has gain controls built-in to cater for these things, some take it into account automatically which is less flexible...IMO

So it was me, should have known that.

I also had the side-bus clipping once, so I pulled the trim of both busses 2dB down.

Yeah, if you are just listening then it's easy enough just to drop channel tools in the fx bin of the track and turn the mid-gain down.

The point of the template is so you can experiment once you've split the component parts.