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  • Behringer BCF2000 Help Please <<SOLVED>> (p.2)
2012/10/23 09:13:02
Wood67
Thanks!  If you boot the BCF while holding down the 4th upper button you will eventually see EG in the display.  From here pan pot 1 sets the USB/MIDI mode, and pot 5 seems to set a midi channel.  I've tried all sorts of combinations here but I suspect yours is running the default.

Interesting about the driver.  Again I tried both with the same fail result. Also tried a fresh install of X2-64, same result.
2012/10/23 11:08:38
fireberd
Try this, connect the BCF2000 and let it connect (you don't need Sonar running for this, just Windows).  Then go to the Device Manager (Hold the Windows key down and press the Pause/Break key and when the panel comes up, Device Manager will be in the Task list in the upper left of the panel).  The BCF2000 should be in the "Sound, Video and Game Controllers" in the Device Manager.  RIGHT click on the entry for the BCF2000 to highlight it and then LEFT click "Uninstall".  Also check the Box to also uninstall the drivers.  Then Disconnect (or power off) the BCF2000 and then restart the PC.  After Windows has started, connect or power on the BCF2000 and Windows should detect it and search for the driver (be on line) and install it.  This should get it installed with the Microsoft driver.  Also, if there was any status corruption between Windows and the BCF2000 this will resolve that. 

After it gets installed by Windows, you should be able to set it up in Sonar.
2012/10/23 11:30:38
Wood67
Wow.  I found this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2439693&mpage=1&print=true and followed the advice to start a new project, save, launch twice etc.  And I have a working BCF.  At least until I turn it off.

To recap: Windows native drivers, USB Mode 1, Channel 1. 8 hours +.

I'm sure that won't be the end of it though!  What's making me laugh is that the noise of the moving faders is already making me cross.  The Faderport was whisper quiet!
2012/10/23 13:50:54
fireberd
Great, whatever it takes to get it working. 

The fader noise is not an issue with me.  I don't use the motorized faders when recording.    Actually, I don't really use the BCF2000 when recrording as I have a Frontier Tranzport with the wireless control surface (but no faders).
2012/10/24 01:46:27
FastBikerBoy
Glad you're sorted, I'd forgotten all about that thread but I was as confused in that one as this.

I've just checked my driver and it is the Behringer driver. Epic fail in my contribution to this thread then....
2012/10/24 09:50:59
Wood67
Thanks again all - quite a relief when it all came together.  Now working through blade's vids.  Not sure the eq mode is working under X2.  It worked for the sonitus eq inserts, maybe not for the pro-channel.  But even as a regular mix desk having genuine faders already makes a substantial difference, though I kind of wish the solo/mute buttons weren't the same physical key + shift mode, and I wish they were just above the fader rather than at the top of the board. But tbh that's more to do with what I was used to in the old days!
2012/10/24 12:12:29
FastBikerBoy
The prochannel doesn't work properly with the Mackie protocol. It's a known issue. You should 'see' whichever module is first in the PC chain but that's it.

Hopefully that'll get fixed at some point but it's been like that since the ProChannel was introduced.
2012/10/29 10:04:48
Wood67
Just as an update to this - when I shut down the pc/bcf and restart, the control surface is not recognised.  However, I just load the 'Safe BCF' song file I created to get it working, restart and we're in business.  Certainly something slightly edgy about the way the midi communication works, but I can get it to operate every time.  No wonder it took so long to figure out!
2012/11/03 18:20:22
rockgod
I've been having the same problem. Sonar X1 still works fine with the BCF2000 but once I upgraded to X2 I got the same results as u. I opened the same project with both X1 and X2, but only X1 would let me use the BCF. hope there is a fix to make it work as it did in X1, but thanks for posting about it. Kinda a lame situation, but it's better than nothing
2012/11/05 07:03:53
Wood67
Rockgod - did you create a 'safe' BCF song file in X2?  Once you get that working, then each time you restart load it up, it won't work first time, quit Sonar, load again and it should work.  Then you can close that project and load your proper one.  So long as you then keep the BCF powered up, and don't restart the PC, it should load up correctly. Bizzare, but so far I'm getting it to work.

Annoyingly though, I can't find a way to shift to the buss channels.  Pity because the fader control makes so much positive difference.
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