Jay Tee 4303
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/18 12:55:27
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Profire 2626, Fast track Ultra and C600 here, all worked first time, every time. What interface? I don't even notice it until someone asks.
I had a Focusrite 8i6 on this laptop but the device lost connection within 5 minutes of use and the software control interface would disappear. Swapped it for the C600, and never looked back.
The 2626 is an interesting piece of gear. There, the ADAT and SPDIF ports give me a total on 32x32 hardwired I/O, (with the FTU controlled from a second PC, coming into the SPDIF ports on the 2626, and with a pair of ADA-8000s feeding the ADAT ports), for a functional 26x26 I/O rig in realtime.
Upstream from the 2626 is a Focusrite ISA 2 in the patch matrix for pre-amp options, so I haven't totally given up on Focusrite.
An approach that has served me well is to purchase interfaces from local brick and mortar stores, instead of online. By nature, an interface has to function between two very comples arrangements of gear, the PC and everything else. There are likely to be issues at times, and a quick turnaround when making adjustments is key. Check the return policy before you pay.
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jscomposer
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/19 10:49:46
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Been using a Delta 2496 for five years (PCI), has never let me down. If you have a PCI slot, and only need on stereo I/O and one MIDI I/O, it is an excellent card for under $100.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/19 11:01:57
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I bought a Delta 1010 refurbished for $299 about 9 years ago and it's been solid besides a couple flaky driver releases over the years. I'm using windows 7 with the latest drivers now and it's been flawless. I wish they still made this particular product.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/19 12:32:20
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As SuperG said, M-Audio is not the same company anymore. They where bought buy Avid and then sold to InMusic who also owns Alesis, AKAI, Ion and Alto, among other brands.
I would be worried about this.
FWIW, I was also using a M-Audio Audiophile 2496 a decade ago or so. I cannot believe the difference in sound quality when I swapped it out for a Edirol FA-66 which i later exchanged for the VS-700R/UA-1010.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/19 12:45:24
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I started recording with M-audio Fast Track Ultra. The bone that people pick about drivers is that Maudio took forever to get Vista Support. They seemed to drag their feet on Windows 7 drivers and 64 bit support. They update drivers only once in a blue moon, but once they update their drivers, the units work good until a Windows update breaks them. Today I use a Fast Track Ultra with my laptop and an I've used Maudio Profire 2626 with my desktop for a little over a year and a half. My only problem with Profire was that my firewire port died. No problem with either of my units.
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Stone House Studios
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/19 16:18:43
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Well here's an interesting issue - maybe a PC thing - but I just installed the Windows 8 driver for the Fast track Ultra, and everything was going great. However, some other app's install of Microsoft Visual C++ must have hosed the ASIO driver. WDM worked fine, but everytime i tried a reinstall, i got a runtime error for the installation. So, I did a complete uninstall of the Ultra's drivers, and, well, now I have a brick that won't install at all. : ( I doubt if I will uninstall everything and start over (but I suspect BFD2 for some reason) nor am I giddy about uninstalling all of the C++ redistribuables hoping to find a scenario that makes the Ultra happy.
I did notice, before I uninstalled, that there was an ASIO4ALL dll in the M-Audio folder. FWIW.
I am also open to suggestions. : )
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dan le
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/19 16:43:54
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Ludvig
As SuperG said, M-Audio is not the same company anymore. They where bought buy Avid and then sold to InMusic who also owns Alesis, AKAI, Ion and Alto, among other brands.
I would be worried about this.
FWIW, I was also using a M-Audio Audiophile 2496 a decade ago or so. I cannot believe the difference in sound quality when I swapped it out for a Edirol FA-66 which i later exchanged for the VS-700R/UA-1010.
Best Regards
Ludvig
How would you describe the difference in the sound, when you say you cannot believe .....? Thanks dan
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/20 01:35:15
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Used two Delta 1010’s from Sonar 5 to X2 ( - the rack version with PCI cards), and only issues involved M-Audio dragging their feet on OS driver updates. Otherwise they were both stable.
Switched to Lynx, but keeping the 1010's for backup... assuming I can stay with Win7... :j
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/20 12:47:23
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love my Maudio Audiophile 192 card.
no issues at all.
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Ludvig
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/20 13:52:03
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Dan,
it's always difficult to describe sound ... But there was a whole new level of distinction, especially in the midrange. Much easier to hear and define small things, even on material recorded with the old sound card.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/20 18:12:33
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markyzno
The Delta 1010 has issues with Sonar where it crashes and then the driver doesnt get released and a reboot is required. Very annoying.
Markyzno, It might be advantageous to look elsewhere for the cause of your problem. I'm using a Delta 1010. I was getting the exact same problem, with a project that was started in Sonar 8.5, that I'd subsequently been working on in X2. The cause turned out to be a Rapture LE softsynth. I just deleted it, and since getting X2 Producer, which comes with the full version of Rapture, I inserted that in its place. I'm not a big user of softsynths, so I don't know if Rapture LE has a problem or if there was just something screwed up with that particular softsynth insertion in that one project, or not.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/21 20:23:45
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I had great experience with delta audiophile and the 1010' lt for more then 7 years.
rocksolid on elder systems with Win 98/ XP. and emagics logic audio platinum
The unsynmetrical (hope that s the right word) signal path of this interfaces (artefarcts aso)
leads me to interfaces with symmetrical signal path,like the delta 10/10 amd the focusrite interfaces.
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lawajava
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/21 22:48:22
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I'm going the opposite route of Jay Tee. I'm having a superb sound experience with Focusrite.
I use a Scarlett 18i6 which has a great user interface as well as my primary. I have a ProFire 2626 providing ADAT input to the Scarlett. It's all working great and sounding great.
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Desmo808
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/21 23:54:46
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The consensus seems to be that the older stuff is decent, but the newer stuff is hit or miss. I can't speak for the newer stuff, but I have been very happy with my dusty old unit.
My retired DAW has a Delta-44. Bare bones, no pre, no frills, but rock solid. It is PCI. I can't speak for Win 7/8 driver support because that DAW is XP. Several posts back, somebody mentioned using a Delta 1010 on Win7 with no problems. So I would guess that the smaller PCI-based siblings in the Delta family would work just as well with the newer OS. If you can find an older unit, it might be worth investigating.
I'll probably never sell my 44 because it runs well on an old computer that has been relegated to jam party duty.
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lawajava
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/22 00:22:28
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Desmond - I'd go with the newer stuff is way better. The older stuff likely works fine with older machines. If you do wind up with a newer PC you'd benefit from having one of the more contemporary units.
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Stone House Studios
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/22 08:28:24
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This may not matter to anyone (since there were no comments on my post!) but last night I uninstalled BFD2, Guitar Rig 5, Dimension, Z3ta, and Rapture plus all C++ except for 2010 before I was able to reinstall the Fast Track Ultra driver on a Windows 8 laptop running on a Core i5 next generation.
The funny thing is that Sonar X2 will not see ASIO drivers, only WDM - I think it has something to do with the afore mentioned ASIO4ALL dll. Before I dumped the driver, BFD and Guitar Rig saw the ASIO, but they both worked in Sonar. ????? I assume that will be the same after I reinstall. Very strange - but the audio quality is fine.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/22 09:58:48
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I think if you UNcheck the WDM, it should then display the ASIO for selection. (I could be wrong, as I am doing this from memory at the moment).
But, it certainly wouldn't hurt to try removing the check box from the WDM and clicking apply, then seeing if the ASIO drivers are displayed.
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Stone House Studios
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/22 10:28:01
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robert_e_bone
I think if you UNcheck the WDM, it should then display the ASIO for selection. (I could be wrong, as I am doing this from memory at the moment).
But, it certainly wouldn't hurt to try removing the check box from the WDM and clicking apply, then seeing if the ASIO drivers are displayed.
Bob Bone
Nope. Went through that before the uninstall and tried it again once reinstalled. As I said, it is a very strange situation since BFD and Guitar Rig register the ASIO driver as if it is the only driver there. I'm thinking about calling Cakewalk tech support, but I'm not sure if it really matters. Now all that's left is to see if everything else reinstalls w/o glitches. BTW - Sonar sees the Line6 ASIO driver, and my UA 101 ASIO driver (the inputs are shot on that thing - man I loved it when it worked) just not the Fast Track. Thanks Bob. Brian
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Stone House Studios
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/23 15:07:01
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Bump due too many Bakers hanging around - wondering if they have any thoughts!!
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/23 16:10:10
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Stone House Studios
Bump due too many Bakers hanging around - wondering if they have any thoughts!!
Hey Stone House Studios, I think this may be related to the latest drivers that Avid has released for this device. Can you try uninstalling the current drivers you have and install the ones before these? Let's see if this resolves the issues that you have are having. http://avid.force.com/pkb...st-Track-Ultra-Drivers
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/23 16:58:29
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Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
Stone House Studios
Bump due too many Bakers hanging around - wondering if they have any thoughts!!
Hey Stone House Studios, I think this may be related to the latest drivers that Avid has released for this device. Can you try uninstalling the current drivers you have and install the ones before these? Let's see if this resolves the issues that you have are having.
http://avid.force.com/pkb...st-Track-Ultra-Drivers
Thanks Dan - I'll give it a shot. I'm a little reluctant since I just got everything re-installed! I couldn't get the driver re-installed until i pulled off a bunch of stuff!
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/23 20:38:50
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I used the Audiophile USB with Cakewalk until a few years back when I upgraded to a Pro Saffire 40 to get more live channels (also rack mount to get some crap off my desk...I'm all in racks now). I still have it and use it with a laptop and Audacity for live recordings when I want a little more control and transparency than my TASCAM DR-7. Drivers on WIN7 are rock solid. You can still get these used...I think they are the high point of M-Audio products. Also had an AXIOM that consumed inordinate time to set up for the simplest functions. The only controller (other than keyboard) that I use at this point is the Frontier Tranzport...just the right amount of controller...also works well, way better than the Dakota I had long ago (and far away).
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/24 03:34:34
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I've owned M-Audio's Delta 1010 and Audiophile 192 and had problems with both. Updating drivers never helped. Got my RME Fireface 800 and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/24 06:50:13
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I have a Fastrack Ultra 8R. No problems with it in either Win 7 64 bit OS or Win 8 64 bit OS. It is my backup recording device for Sonar (and the only recording device for ProToolsMP9), I've used it several times for recording and playback in Sonar and its latency is equal to my Octa-Capture.
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Mick Moreau
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/25 14:43:07
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I am a M-audio audiophile PCI 2496 soundcard user with Sonar X2 PE with windows 7. No problem here. Has been using that since Sonar 8.5. I have heard that M-audio has been very slow in updating their driver. So it is important that before you purchase any hardware you must make sure that the proper driver for your operating system is available for download from their website.
One minor annoyance was that the use of a particular software (I forget which one) tends to make the m-audio driver's control panel disappear. It was latter resolved by visiting M-audio's support website and they mention something about going through MSconfig setting. I had never experience that again when and updated driver was installed.
Other than that I am very have happy with my M-audio soundcard. It's advantage is that it is very stable, quiet, and fast. It's speed and low latency (128ms) allows me to enjoy playing softsynths with ease. That is my experience. My other interface is Cakewalk's UA25EX.
Musichoo... if you can possibly remember what it is you did that fixed your problem... I REALLY need to know because the greyed out area is the part that will NOT allow me to shut off input monitoring on the Maudio interface. Ergo... I get the damned bleed through. Heck, if anyone else knows the workaround I would be very grateful!
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/26 02:03:55
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Mick Moreau
musichoo
I am a M-audio audiophile PCI 2496 soundcard user with Sonar X2 PE with windows 7. No problem here. Has been using that since Sonar 8.5. I have heard that M-audio has been very slow in updating their driver. So it is important that before you purchase any hardware you must make sure that the proper driver for your operating system is available for download from their website.
One minor annoyance was that the use of a particular software (I forget which one) tends to make the m-audio driver's control panel disappear. It was latter resolved by visiting M-audio's support website and they mention something about going through MSconfig setting. I had never experience that again when and updated driver was installed.
Other than that I am very have happy with my M-audio soundcard. It's advantage is that it is very stable, quiet, and fast. It's speed and low latency (128ms) allows me to enjoy playing softsynths with ease. That is my experience. My other interface is Cakewalk's UA25EX.
Musichoo... if you can possibly remember what it is you did that fixed your problem... I REALLY need to know because the greyed out area is the part that will NOT allow me to shut off input monitoring on the Maudio interface. Ergo... I get the damned bleed through. Heck, if anyone else knows the workaround I would be very grateful!
Hi Mick Moreau , This is the link that help solved my problem. http://m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=6d0c97a5d16e12cd035fb0a932802b5e Hopes that help Choo Shi-Hwei
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Mick Moreau
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/26 12:25:22
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Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough on my description. I CAN access the maudio control panel, but its different than the one that used to be there in that... when I used to get bleed through onto other tracks I could go into the old panel, uncheck the input monitoring option (which is not an option on the new panel), and that would solve the problem.
How do I shut off the input monitoring on the new Maudio GUI for my 2496?
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/26 13:04:44
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I have a Fast Track Ultra. I updated the drivers tried to do some tricks that was suggested here on the forum, however, periodically it would blue screen my computer. Got tired of it and got a Roland Octacapture. That was a good 5 months back.
Now there is mention of a new driver for it.. Maybe that will correct the blue screens I kept getting.
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2013/08/26 13:33:40
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Firewire 410 ..in use for mastering and tracking 0 error ever !
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Re: M-Audio interfaces...
2013/08/26 14:12:21
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Mick Moreau
Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough on my description. I CAN access the maudio control panel, but its different than the one that used to be there in that... when I used to get bleed through onto other tracks I could go into the old panel, uncheck the input monitoring option (which is not an option on the new panel), and that would solve the problem.
How do I shut off the input monitoring on the new Maudio GUI for my 2496?
Have you downloaded the latest 64bit driver from Avid? The only thing I can't control are the latency settings within Sonar's options. However, Sonar sems to choose the best latency setting and it always works fine.
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