m139139
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M-Audio keystation 88 pro
Does anybody in this forum know anything about the M-Audio Keystation
88-Pro. This is the one with all of the "bells and whistles" on it.
Thanks in advance.
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Opus
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/08/30 21:27:03
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I have one and you'll never use all the B & W's.
But dang if it ain't fun tryin.
Some people complain about the action, but for what I do it's great.
If you can figure this puppy out, you can do anything!
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whitefalcon
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/08/30 23:13:13
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I have one and you'll never use all the B & W's. But dang if it ain't fun tryin. Some people complain about the action, but for what I do it's great. If you can figure this puppy out, you can do anything! I have one to. Lots of controllers make assigning midi settings easy. I use it with True Pianos but its great with my Synths to. I mainly use it with Sonar though. For the value you cant beat it for a wieghted controller. Best price I have seen is $300
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m139139
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/08/31 00:46:49
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I would like to know who carries the M-Audio Key station 88 for $300. Most music stores that I've seen on line are selling this same instrument for $399. There is one with 88 keys for $299, but hardly any of the features that the 88 pro has.
BTW, I went to your garageband site, and enjoyed your music. I like a lot of synths anyway. Do you use a music writing program?
Thanks again for your help.
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whitefalcon
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 02:25:21
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I would like to know who carries the M-Audio Key station 88 for $300. Most music stores that I've seen on line are selling this same instrument for $399. There is one with 88 keys for $299, but hardly any of the features that the 88 pro has.
BTW, I went to your garageband site, and enjoyed your music. I like a lot of synths anyway. Do you use a music writing program?
Thanks again for your help.
m139139 Glad to help out... Last holiday sale I saw about 4 used ones at Guitar center for $300. Even at $400 the Pro 88 is a great buy. Wow thanks for checking my music web site out. I am glad you liked my songs! I use Cakewalk Sonar and Project 5 sequencers for most of my music. For sound, I also have a Roland JV1010 that I used for many of the songs you heard. I also use many softsynths like Dimension, Rapture, Sytrus, Zebra, Z3ta and many others.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 09:54:17
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Before you buy an 88 pro, I strongly recommend that you check out the reviews of this keyboard at harmonycentral.com.
As per comments at harmonycentral.com and my own experience, the action on this keyboard ranges from not very good to really bad, apparently depending on when a particular board was manufactured. I found on mine that the black keys played at noticeably lower velocities than the white keys, to the point that I couldn't hit a maximum velocity on a black key.
The action also was extremely stiff, and some keys required so much of a push to get moving that they couldn't be played softly. This problem, combined with the one above, meant that I was unable to really play a passage on the keyboard--I had to just bang it out and adjust velocities later. What a drag!
I also found that the USB drivers for the 88 Pro caused problems with some of my other USB keyboards and audio interfaces. May not be a problem if this is your only USB musical device.
If you want a really great keyboard action, I recommend any of the weighted keyboards from Fatar or Studilogic. Those boards are a joy to play. If you can't afford the high end Studiologics with all the controllers, get a low end model like the SL-990 (88 keys with great action, but only a pitch wheel and a mod wheel for controllers) and add one of those 25-key mini controllers with faders and dials on top of your setup. That'll save you a few hundred dollars, and it's a very flexible setup.
Regards, lightninrick
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 10:12:37
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You read my mind. I'm seriously thinking of doing the same with a Studiologic 88 keys and then adding an Edirol PCR-300 to sit up on top. This way I have my 88 keys for piano and the knobs for Rapture and Z3TA+  My .02 cents worth again..... Ed P.S. Of course this could change if I actually could see in person one of Studiologic VMK188 Plus 
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 12:19:55
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No doubt the Studiologic is loads better then the Pro 88 but you get what you pay for. For people that are not able to sense the differences in velocities for the price it is ok IMHI, The M-Audio keyboard fills its wieghted keys for low cost niche. I have been pretty happy with my Pro 88. I am able to play it very soft and louder and louder and then soft and the keys to me react well. But that is my experience. I think from what I have read there is alot of diversity in the velocity reaction on different Pro 88 keyboards. M-Audio has velocity adjustments in thier sofware and also programs like True Pianos has this as well.. I would love to have a Studiologic keyboard. I will have to check those other pianos out. However, If I were getting a nice wieghted key piano I may want to also consider a Roland controller or the highest end Yamaha... Because of all the other stuff it can do besides be a controller...
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Opus
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 18:34:28
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For what the 88 offers...
As tony the Tiger says
"It's Grrrrreat!
Go try one
The range of velocities are pretty good too.
When I finally make this puppy do all that it can, I'll get the best out there.
Till then
It's 88 all the way!
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 18:57:38
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It took me a while to get around to the various places that had demo units but after comparing all the cheapies I finally went for a CME UF 8. I found the action and general playability very good. Still trying to work out ACT and the control surface functions but its the keyboard part I was most interested in. Will probably get a small edirol unit for the controller functions as they're better suited to that.
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whitefalcon
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 20:33:23
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It took me a while to get around to the various places that had demo units but after comparing all the cheapies I finally went for a CME UF 8. I found the action and general playability very good. Still trying to work out ACT and the control surface functions but its the keyboard part I was most interested in. Will probably get a small edirol unit for the controller functions as they're better suited to that. Yes try them out for yourself. I have had my Pro 88 for over two years now and I really like it. But I would never recommend getting something because it works for me. There are many things I like about it... Not just the Piano but it has loads of controllers, More then most in its price range. If you buy it at Guitar center and you get it and are not happy with the velocities return it. They have a great return policy. Piano playability and Piano sounds are very individual. You can tell that from all the Piano threads that come up all the time.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/01 21:44:23
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I wouldn't touch a Pro 88 with a ten foot pole. I used to work in the keyboard department of a major music retailer, and the first time I put one on display I had to send three in a row out for repair because thier keys were visibly damaged ... right out of a factory sealed box! I had numerous customers who had to swap out units due to faulty keys as well. Check out StudioLogic (fatar), CME, or even a Yamaha digital piano.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/02 01:10:45
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sounds like one of those luck of the draw things. Mine has been fine, never had a problem with it from day one
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/02 09:53:19
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With in an hour of getting mine home, I dropped it! Was setting it up on the stand and didn't have it locked.....Boom! (yea I know, I'm a ...) Well aside from a scratch or 2 and a dent or 2 the thing works great! If your starting out in the world of Synths, this puppy can't be beat! Instruments are a personnel thing, Ya gotta try before ya buy it.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/03 14:11:37
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With in an hour of getting mine home, I dropped it! Was setting it up on the stand and didn't have it locked.....Boom! (yea I know, I'm a ...) Well aside from a scratch or 2 and a dent or 2 the thing works great! If your starting out in the world of Synths, this puppy can't be beat! Instruments are a personnel thing, Ya gotta try before ya buy it. Well that says something. No when the Pro 88 is good its very good. Every keyboard has some lemons. There will even be returns on a Yamaha. I soppose that is how they keep the prices down, dont have as good of production line standards or something but mine has performed great, never had an issue with it. The key response is exceptional. But the keys are not my favorite part of it, its all the controller options. You hook each of those up to an Act Setting and you are in Controller city. Its really nice as a controller. If you get a keyboard that has no controller settings you better have tghem somewhere else. But its nice to have them close to your playing area
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/09/07 22:42:07
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Another vote for awesome......
This was a great purchase back when it cost 499 and I never had a problem with it.
I midi-learned every knob and fader to Dimension and use it as a hardware synth.
(buttons are for P5's groove matrix) Works great that way.
Sorry for those who have had problems or read about those who have. This was one
my best decisions in spending.
I get a kick out of these posts though.
I have authentic analog drum machine samples.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/10/25 22:18:57
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I recently purchased my prkeys 88 m-audio and sometimes my sustain pedal dont work. Simply it ignores the midi message and it appears in the display when i touch it "38 127"!
WHen Iplug the same pedal in my other keyboards (kx-88, Dx-7 it works good, something is wrong with my m-audio keyboard. You know something about that...Thnx a lot
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/10/28 03:56:54
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recently purchased my prkeys 88 m-audio and sometimes my sustain pedal dont work. Simply it ignores the midi message and it appears in the display when i touch it "38 127"!
WHen Iplug the same pedal in my other keyboards (kx-88, Dx-7 it works good, something is wrong with my m-audio keyboard. You know something about that...Thnx a lot could be a short in the cable. could be a short in the connector on the Pro 88. If you have another sustain pedal plug it into the Pro 88 to see if it works... I have not had any trouble with the sustain pedal working on mine. to trace a short take an ohm meter and connect one end to a ground and the other to the postive connector. Make sure you set the voltage to house current before you do this. If this sounds like greek better not mess with it.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/10/29 16:04:40
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i talked gc into selling me one for $299.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/10/30 00:18:42
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i talked gc into selling me one for $299. thats a decent price fro an 88 key keyboard
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/05 18:24:58
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Hi, I have one of these beast, but can't get it to work like it should with Sonar. In fact, the only way I can get any response from it is by using the MCC preset, and if the Keystation is on preset 1 (GM). I read a post somewhere where the guy was using it by customizing the Keystation's preset 10, aand the ACT control preset in Sonar, but I can't get anything. When I do have it working in the MCC preset all I have access to is the 5 transport buttons, pan, reverb, and chorus. I'd really like to have more options than that. Is anyone having a amount of success as using the keystation as a full blown controlor?
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/14 12:22:27
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I bought 3 of these things and each one was defective in a different way! Guitar Center was kind and sold me another keyboard of my choise at cost.
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whitefalcon
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/14 14:24:47
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Does anybody in this forum know anything about the M-Audio Keystation
88-Pro. This is the one with all of the "bells and whistles" on it. I use that controller, what do you want to know?
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/18 07:32:06
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First , if U are real piano player , don't buy it . U will destroy Your fingers . This keyboard is only for these "piano players" who play keyboard 1 hour a week . Before 1 year I think to buy this , but my friend make this first , and now after 1 year everyday using this keyboard .... it is normaly not possible to play with this S"""""""t . If U will look to keys they are like waves and hills . If somebody need to buy heavy keys , with non balanced action ( like piano ) , weak mechanics , and "PRO" for $300 .... just for not bad looking O.K. buy it . Loke somebody says , "..... & Your studio will looks, like pro .... " looks only ... , but not works .
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whitefalcon
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/18 11:20:21
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First , if U are real piano player , don't buy it . U will destroy Your fingers . This keyboard is only for these "piano players" who play keyboard 1 hour a week . Before 1 year I think to buy this , but my friend make this first , and now after 1 year everyday using this keyboard .... it is normaly not possible to play with this S"""""""t . If U will look to keys they are like waves and hills . If somebody need to buy heavy keys , with non balanced action ( like piano ) , weak mechanics , and "PRO" for $300 .... just for not bad looking O.K. buy it . Loke somebody says , "..... & Your studio will looks, like pro .... " looks only ... , but not works . I disagree its fine, for the price its a good value/price If you want that kind of mechanics spend $1500 Your logic is like someone that buys a cheap car and expects it to perform like a Mercedes.
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/18 13:53:04
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O.K. if U go by this logic , buy paper with painted piano keis for $1 and try to explain for everybody , that this thing is very good hardware for this price , I don't know what kind of people are in this forum , I said again, I talk about good instruments , whith which U can work professionally
, O.K. if 4 U most important, price & it beats all ratings , there is most cheap instruments , be happy I said again , if for U is most important how it looks & how it costs .... For me is most important what U will create with these instruments . Thank U 4 attention & good bye , I see this forum is for people who don't know that below two black keys is C note ....
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/18 14:32:10
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well, you get what you pay for... a studiologic will likely be a better investment - but if you don't have the cash, you don't have the cash.
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whitefalcon
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2007/12/18 19:59:16
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O.K. if U go by this logic , buy paper with painted piano keis for $1 and try to explain for everybody , that this thing is very good hardware for this price , I don't know what kind of people are in this forum , I said again, I talk about good instruments , whith which U can work professionally
, O.K. if 4 U most important, price & it beats all ratings , there is most cheap instruments , be happy I said again , if for U is most important how it looks & how it costs .... For me is most important what U will create with these instruments . Thank U 4 attention & good bye , I see this forum is for people who don't know that below two black keys is C note .... Right you get what you pay for. I own one that i have had for years and it plays well. I have had no trouble with it. I would expect alot more out of a more expensive instrument. But to bash a cheaper version because its cheaper and not built as well, isnt that calling the kettle black? And to judge my intelligence on likeing the Pro 88? You dont even know me, I could be a world renound composer that does not want to spend alot on an more expensive instrument. Or maybe I have an a Yamaha and this to, because I bought this and liked it so kept it for some sentimental reason. But you just dont know... So to make blanket accusations, what does that say about your tolerance?
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2008/01/06 08:57:03
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Hi!
I'm new in this MIDI thing. I've just bought a used Keystation Pro 88. I'd like to use it with Reason and Cubase SX as well (somtimes with Reason rewired to Cubase and sometimes with Cubase all alone). I've only tried the Cubase all alone thing, yet. I set Colossus as the MIDI Out, and USB Control Device (the Pro 88) as the input. I tried to assign the Pro 88's controls to the Colossus' controls, but I could do this only with the modulation wheel. None of any other knobs of Colossus (like pan LFO amount or tune LFO) could be assigned to Pro 88. I tried this using the control assign button and typing the CC number of pan for ex. Maybe I'm trying to do this on my stupid and beginner way... Can you help me?
And could you help me how to configure the Pro 88 to Reason rewired to Cubase?
Thank you for the help!
Greetings from Hungary!
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RE: M-Audio keystation 88 pro
2008/01/06 10:48:34
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All of the M-Audio keyboards have felt kind of cheap and unplayable to me. The master controller keyboards which feel best to me are the CME products - the UF and VX. They're made in China, but the company is owned by Yamaha, so at least you've got a major music manufacturer behind them. Even their synth action stuff feels real good. And their 88 weighted feels really nice.
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