Huey Driver
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MC dosen't want to be a slave???
Hope I'm not repeating some one else's ??? but...
MC dosen't want to sync with my other hardware. Here's how I'm set up:
Boss BR-8 8-Track (MIDI OUT only) (set to MTC) -> EMU XMIDI 1x1 USB -> MC 2002 10.0.2 -> Boss DR-770 Dr. Rythm (set to thru) -> GR-33 Gtr Synth
Am using GR33 as just a sound module and haven't had any problems with running it just with MC. After I rearranged to the above configuration, MC just dosen't want to play when I hit play on the BR-8.
Hmmmm.... New to the recording/MIDI world would be an understatement so if you have any ideas don't feel bad about dumbing it up a little.
Computer prob?
Alienware Pent 4 3.4 GHz
1G RAM Win XP SP3
Any jokes or ideas would be too cool. Thanks from the new guy.
Oh yeah, one other thing. Can these synths (my GR-33) only play one patch at a time? ...and have to record it to the BR-8 one track at a time when I'm finished?
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RobertB
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RE: MC dosen't want to be a slave???
2008/10/18 01:10:12
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Welcome Huey. MC, SHS, and Sonar must be the Master. Does the BR-8 have MIDI In available? I'm not familiar with the GR-33. Who makes that? Edit: should I be reading Huey Driver as UH-1 pilot?
post edited by RobertB - 2008/10/18 01:16:08
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RE: MC dosen't want to be a slave???
2008/10/18 01:36:52
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Why don't you just use MC to record the tracks one at a time? New to MIDI, you sure got a lot of stuff already. Your Roland guitar synth looks like a pretty cool thing. I'm not sure how that would work with MC. If you find an Instrument Definition for the GR-33, you could upgrade to SONAR and have all it's patches available in SONAR. MC will play multiple patches to/from MIDI keyboards, MIDI modules, soft synths, but I don't know about a guitar synth. Edit: I just looked over at www.cakewalknet.com and there is a Roland GR-33 Instrument Definition available.
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RE: MC dosen't want to be a slave???
2008/10/18 11:38:37
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If you are new to MIDI... it's a good idea to start at the beginning with some basics before you start asking MC to do the "other stuff". So I recommend reading and working through tutorial #8 on midi & using TTS..a soft synth.... then for a clearer understanding..(hopefully).. check out my website www.herbhartley.com and navigate to the music pages dealing with MC4 and TTS... I show you how to insert a soft synth (TTS) into a new project and get it to produce music by playing 3 instruments at one time.... If you have other questions or problems....post again. Start by setting up your rig: midi keyboard out.....into your midi soundcard. Be sure that MC4 sees the soundcard midi input and can record midi data to a track. Simple setup..... but it's the best way to start.
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Huey Driver
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RE: MC dosen't want to be a slave???
2008/10/18 17:35:00
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Thanks gents,
To answer y'alls comments:
-No MIDI IN on the 8-Trk
-Roland makes the GR-33 (they say that it makes a decent stand alone sound module which is what I'm using it for now)
-Yes, I have some midi stuff but haven't really had them talking to each other much.
-Don't have a MIDI keyboard, need MC to control the GR-33
-And yes I am a UH-1 Pilot :)
So Robert you're saying that there is no way I can slave MC to my 8-Trk? The reason I wanted to that is I was told that my 8-Trk would have a better recording quality and I wanted to use MC as a sequencer/composition tool. Plus, the audio input on my comp. is a Realtek AC'97 (not made for digital recording?) and I figured (in my extensive experience) that might reduce the audio quality as well. Is this a wrong assumption?
Once again, thanks!
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RE: MC dosen't want to be a slave???
2008/10/18 18:18:02
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Cool. I love the sound of a Huey..no mistaking it for anything else.
I have been looking for a manual, to get an idea of what the function of the MIDI out is. No luck.
Since it has no MIDI in, I am guessing that it is for transmitting control functions only.
The 8-track does not necessarily have better recording quality, however, such a device is excellent for remote recording that you want to bring back to your studio. That's not to say it isn't good, it does record in 24 bit.
The idea of using MC as a sequencer/compositon tool is spot on.
What you ultimately want to do, if I understand correctly, is get your MIDI tracks into MC, feed the MIDI back to your external sound modules (The Dr-770 and the GR-33),and record their outputs as audio.
I am a bit curious about the AC97. Alienware is known for mid-high end gaming machines, and it seems odd that they would ship a machine with the AC97 only. Is this a laptop, or a desktop PC?
The AC97 chips are ok for playback or recording, but usually not both at the same time. This makes it a weak link, and we will probably suggest a better sound card/ interface.
Do you have a full manual on the BR-8 in PDF format that you could send me?
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57Gregy
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RE: MC dosen't want to be a slave???
2008/10/19 00:34:53
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I'm afraid with MC, the only sounds you can really access are the General MIDI (GM) sounds if they are resident in the -33. You can use it's sounds, however, by choosing on the -33 which sound you want to hear and selecting no patch on an MC MIDI track and selecting the MIDI output to the GR. That way, the MIDI data will be played by the Roland with the sound it's set to play, and output that back into MC on an audio track.
If you had a SONAR program, which allows importation of Instrument Definitions (MC does not), you can download the ID for the GR and have all it's banks and patches available in SONAR, so you select them in SONAR and the GR-33 will play them.
But a better sound interface would be advisable for best audio production.
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