MIDI Keyboard Delay

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2010/09/09 12:30:40 (permalink)

MIDI Keyboard Delay

hi ,

i am not experiencing delay with recording, just with the midi keyboard once you press the keys - there is a delay for sonar to recognize what i'm doing.



If i change latency settings on audio it will not affect midi right?

many apologies if there is already a topic on this but i had a quick look and thought this would be alright to post.

Many thanks :)
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    johnnyV
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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/09 12:48:15 (permalink)
    Yes the Audio settings do not have anything to do with MIDI unless your talking Soft synths.
    There a a few reasons you get the delay.
    Sound card driver issues. Are you using an interface and ASIO?
    Do you have the echo input on?

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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/09 18:23:44 (permalink)
    louis.stacey


    hi ,

    i am not experiencing delay with recording, just with the midi keyboard once you press the keys - there is a delay for sonar to recognize what i'm doing.



    If i change latency settings on audio it will not affect midi right?

    many apologies if there is already a topic on this but i had a quick look and thought this would be alright to post.

    Many thanks :)
    The first question that comes to mind is "How do you know there is a delay for Sonar to recognize what you are doing?"
    If the answer is "There is a delay in the time between when I press a key, and the time I get a sound." then you are likely experiencing audio latency. Try adjusting latency, or ensure you are using your best driver choice.
    If it is something else, please describe!
     
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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/09 19:36:45 (permalink)
    Its called latency

    If i change latency settings on audio it will not affect midi right?

    Wrong! it will effect it. Your ASIO or WDm driver settings will definitely affect the time it takes for you to trigger MIDI. Lower your latency so its under 5 msecs
    If you have an onboard card, you may be SOL, as they dont have good drivers that support low latency
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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/10 01:39:22 (permalink)
    Hey CJay, I know what you meant, but I'm just clarifying for the OP that the latency should be under 5 milliseconds.

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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/10 01:45:35 (permalink)
    LOL, yea 5 sec should be 5msecs.... Im going to edit my post.
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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/10 09:09:02 (permalink)
    thanks guys for all your replys,           yes i do mean theres a delay from when i hit the keys to when i hear them. and how do i adjust the MIDI latency.  

    and yes i am using mainly soft synths ....

    thanks

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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/10 10:02:59 (permalink)
    louis - what soundcard are you using?  your onboard soundcard?  you will not get good latency with the onboard soundcard, you'll need to upgrade.  check my website for some entry / mid level soundcard recommendations.

    in the meantime, you MIGHT be able to get better latency with your onboard soundcard using ASIO4ALL.  google it, download it, unzip it, install it, then change your driver mode to ASIO in OPTIONS>AUDIO>DRIVER MODE

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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/12 06:37:58 (permalink)
    I am using audio interface as my soundcard,
               its a cakewalk UA25EX.       it has midi in and outs but my midi keyboard only takes USB so i have to plug the keyboard direct into the computers USB.          
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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/12 07:06:47 (permalink)
    Go to audio settings of Sonar and lower your default set latency. if you start getting cracks and pops set it higher...the best setting is the lowest you can get without crackles and pops!
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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/12 10:12:17 (permalink)
    Be sure to set the driver mode to ASIO in Options-Audio-Advanced.

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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/12 10:21:55 (permalink)
    Or WDM. Either one that is ASIO or WDM will give the best driver performance. With CW brand audio interfaces or Edirol both driver models work great.  So you have a choice. However it is possible one may work better on your system then the other.

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    Re:MIDI Keyboard Delay 2010/09/12 16:09:44 (permalink)
    Wasn't there a thread about using USB keyboard controllers and this same issue?
    His Edirol  interface is not being used when he plays MIDI, so has nothing to do with this issue. You would need a separate drivers for the USB controller. Therin lies the problem.

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