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2016/08/21 00:17:04 (permalink)

MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded

Hello Everyone,
 
I am unsure how to get my MIDI CC data from my rotaries to work after the part has been recorded.
 
I record a track playing MIDI notes and moving a rotary which controls CC#19.  In ACT, CC#19 is mapped to the filter cutoff in a softsynth.  As I am playing and recording, I hear the changes....  BUT when I play back the recording, it looks like the CC#19 data (which I see got recorded in the PRV), is no longer effecting the filter cutoff parameter in the softsynth.   
 
Any help would be much appreciated!
 
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    AdamGrossmanLG
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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 00:22:34 (permalink)
    i *think* what might be happening here is that the softsynth is NEVER responding to CC#19... maybe ACT is somehow getting the information from the controller to the softsynth without using CC#19, but since my controller knob is set to CC#19 it is dumping CC#19 into the MIDI track, but there IS no link between CC#19 and the softsynth parameter.
     
    This is VERY confusing.  
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    AdamGrossmanLG
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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 00:29:52 (permalink)
    here is what i think should happen:
     
    http://imgur.com/a/26rPt
     
    (for some reason when I post this URL with the image button, the preview is dead)
     
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    AdamGrossmanLG
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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 00:35:03 (permalink)
     
     
     
    what am i doing wrong here with trying to insert an image?

    http://imgur.com/zMLxD30
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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 05:19:10 (permalink)
    SilverBlueMedallion
     
     
     
    what am i doing wrong here with trying to insert an image?

    http://imgur.com/zMLxD30


    you're using the page URL (above) not the image URL https://i.imgur.com/DNwTzBW.png


    just a sec

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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 08:41:18 (permalink)
    Does it work if you record using the control within the softsynth itself - and if so, how do the recorded events differ?
     
    AMB
     
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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 12:21:59 (permalink)
    OHH imgr changed how they give you the link, now the default link URL goes to their page (i have to add .jpg - annoying), but thanks for that.

    OK, so i found out what is going on here, but don't know what to do about it.

    I see there is 2 ways to control a synth parameter....   Use ACT, or use MIDI CC# (with MIDI Learn).
     
    I am not sure why one is better than the other, but here is my issue:
     
    As you can see here, by default Rotary 8 (R8) is mapped to the OSC 2 Fine Tune parameter, and this is able to control it (via ACT).
     

     
    I hit record and then I get the following MIDI CC information in the PRV, but it DOES NOT control the synth parameter anymore.  It is only writing MIDI CC#19 data (which maps to nothing).
     

     
     
    Once I do the following, it works again:
     

     
     
    So then I ask, what is the purpose of ACT if it doesn't map the MIDI CC and the synth together once recorded?



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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 12:24:05 (permalink)
    I just recently noticed, that if I check this "W" on the synth, it records the automation in an automation lane.  I guess that would work.  It's not MIDI CC# data, I think I would like MIDI CC# data though as it can be edited in the event list if necessary.


     
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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 12:33:18 (permalink)
    I also see now if i use automation, it STILL records MIDI CC#19 because that is what my controller is set to.  

    It is useless and not doing anything.  Is there anyway to disable it from recording the CC changes if i am already recording automation?


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    Re: MIDI Rotary Movements Have Effect While Playing, But Not Once Recorded 2016/08/21 13:44:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SilverBlueMedallion 2016/08/22 02:27:41
    SilverBlueMedallion

    It is useless and not doing anything.  Is there anyway to disable it from recording the CC changes if i am already recording automation?






    Yes. Start playback when you want to "write" automation, not record.
     
    "Automation Write" should be done during playback, not during record.
     

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