profwacko
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MIDI playback has missing notes
I am experiencing missing MIDI notes when playing back recorded data.
I have tried changing the MIDI buffer size and find that I get more errors when it is smaller (100-500), but
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CJaysMusic
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/04/28 20:31:23
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Raise it to 700 or 800 or 900 or 1000. 500 is default, so if its missing notes at 500, you need to raise it, not lower it
Cj
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/04/29 01:39:22
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>>you need to raise it, not lower it
Thanks for the update, CJ.
I got cut off in mid-sentence. Sorry for the confusion.
I tried it as high as 2048 and still had missing notes.
I tried both Dimension Pro and Kontakt 3, and had the same issue on both playing a monophonic bass part.
I am fairly certain that I have no missing notes when I export audio, but it sure is aggravating when trying to do any work with the bass part missing random notes.
I am running PE 8.5.2.
Would 8.5.3. make a difference?
I don't recall having this problem with my previous PE 8.x.
-Jack
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/04/29 11:51:45
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☄ Helpfulby RobAugias 2016/02/01 15:28:22
Never seen that in 8.5.3, so no, it wont make a difference..
What is the first setting in that menu? It should be 64. Raise it to 96 and set the other buffer to 800.
then raise your sound cards asio buffers to 1024 or 512.
Set your playback I/O buffers to 512
Cj
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profwacko
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/04/29 16:28:19
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Thanks, CJ.
I'll give that a try.
-Jack
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/04/29 23:18:30
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If you have no luck. I think you should delete your aud.ini file and let sonar rebuild a new one.
I noticed you have a P4.. Maybe it cant keep up with this project. Its only happening in one project, right?
Just to be sure, you are adjusting the MIDI settings in Options > Global > MIDI or MIDI DATA, right?
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/04/30 02:23:56
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Try the VST version of plugins if running DX version.
I hade missing notes on Vsampler running DX-version. The way it looked to me was that memory handling in DX is different than VST and VST simply worked better(not only better, perfect).
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/01 16:25:49
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I've had similar problems using Battery to trigger drum samples. It would occasionally skip notes with very short durations. I made certain all durations were a minimum for 35 - 40 ticks... and it never missed a note. Not sure what your circumstances are regarding if or VST your playing into or what your midi note configuration looks like, This is just one skipped note scenario that works for me.
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/02 14:14:57
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CJaysMusic
If you have no luck. I think you should delete your aud.ini file and let sonar rebuild a new one.
I noticed you have a P4.. Maybe it cant keep up with this project. Its only happening in one project, right?
Just to be sure, you are adjusting the MIDI settings in Options > Global > MIDI or MIDI DATA, right?
Options>Global>MIDI - Yep. That's the one. I opened the same Sonar project file in PE 8.3.1 and had absolutely no issues wiht dropped MIDI notes! I also found that it gets a lot worse in PE 8.5.2 if I am looping an eight-bar section. The sync between the notes gets all screwed up. My next move is to download the 8.5.3 update. Phlegm at Eleven. -Jack
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/02 19:12:36
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Quick question:
Anybody know where I can get the 8.5.3 update file?
I thought I already had it.
ADVthanksANCE
-Jack
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/02 19:49:56
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/05 19:11:02
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I have not yet updated to 8.5.3 as yet BUT, (as you see, that is a very large BUT) I have discovered a very serious PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard) error regarding this anomaly.
I had quantizing assigned to the bass track that had been applied to the MIDI recorded track layer, rather than in the FX portion of the Track display. Apparently, when some of the notes were over-hanging the attack of the following note, the following note was not sounded.
Now, while I will willingly take all of the flames shot towards me because this was totally my error, I do find it interesting that version 8.5.2 behaved differently than version 8.3.1 when playing exactly the same MIDI track.
Is it possible that my later version was somehow set to a MIDI monophonic mode, even though it was the same install of Dimension Pro in both cases? Maybe the presets are read a little differently?
Oh well, I should just shut up now, press record and play something interesting for a change.
Thanks for your help.
You guys are a truly amazing and gifted bunch.
-Jack
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/05 20:14:39
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The silent midi notes has happened to me on rare occasions throughout several version of Sonar and on projects that should not of made me raise my latency. I worked around it by bouncing down the track to audio, the missing notes show up then.
As I am sure you heard, raising your latency too high can cause all sort of havok on your playback.
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/05 21:58:36
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Glad you got it sorted out.
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Re:MIDI playback has missing notes
2011/05/06 06:12:27
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profwacko
I have not yet updated to 8.5.3 as yet BUT, (as you see, that is a very large BUT) I have discovered a very serious PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard) error regarding this anomaly.
I had quantizing assigned to the bass track that had been applied to the MIDI recorded track layer, rather than in the FX portion of the Track display. Apparently, when some of the notes were over-hanging the attack of the following note, the following note was not sounded.
Now, while I will willingly take all of the flames shot towards me because this was totally my error, I do find it interesting that version 8.5.2 behaved differently than version 8.3.1 when playing exactly the same MIDI track.
Is it possible that my later version was somehow set to a MIDI monophonic mode, even though it was the same install of Dimension Pro in both cases? Maybe the presets are read a little differently?
Oh well, I should just shut up now, press record and play something interesting for a change.
Thanks for your help.
You guys are a truly amazing and gifted bunch.
-Jack
My guess is that is was considered a bug, and legato on notes would not work unless it functions as of now. Legato is missing the attack part in most sample players and synths. But usually only in mono mode. In polyphonic mode it would be strange behavior. But it's up to the synth to handle this, I can't see why sequencer should do anything. But there is a general midi command to set to mono or polyphonic so Sonar might be sensing it.
post edited by lfm - 2011/05/06 06:17:07
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