skeematics
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MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
Does anyone know if X1 has the capability to convert MIDI to musical notation? If so, please tell me how.
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Jimbo 88
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/15 20:21:32
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yes, you play/record a midi track, then view it in staff view. You will see notation. Be warned: notation editing is lacking in features and can be used as a sketch at best.
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/15 23:14:55
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Jimbo 88
yes, you play/record a midi track, then view it in staff view. You will see notation. Be warned: notation editing is lacking in features and can be used as a sketch at best.
 I remember in 1992, Emagic (C-lab back then) Notator on the Atari, playing in MIDI and seeing notation leap onto the screen. I thought the pinnacle of sequencing had been reached - this was truly a miracle. But that was 20 years ago, and the Staff View still isn't there.
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sharke
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/15 23:45:22
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pbognar
I remember in 1992, Emagic (C-lab back then) Notator on the Atari, playing in MIDI and seeing notation leap onto the screen. I thought the pinnacle of sequencing had been reached - this was truly a miracle. But that was 20 years ago, and the Staff View still isn't there.
I think that's what my friend had on his Atari. I'll never forget a jam session we had with me on a MIDI guitar (which was actually quite good for the time), and at the end of it seeing what I'd improvised in notation on the screen. And from what I remember, it was pretty good. Anyway it was a boon to someone like me who had previously only used OctaMED on the Amiga.
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 00:30:24
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I remember only 2 midi guitars. Casio and Charvel had one. The Charvel had to connect to a GTM-6 or something. It was so long ago.
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 02:22:23
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sharke
OctaMED on the Amiga. Wow! Sorry to to go off topic for a moment, but I used to use OctaMED (and before that MED) on the Amiga too! I've still got my Amiga, tucked away in the loft... I should get it out one day, but, then again... perhaps not. I also had the A.M.A.S sampler hardware/software/MIDI interface. Sorry... back on topic...
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samhayman
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 02:24:34
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Yes like Jimbo said - anything you record in MIDI can be viewed as notation in the Staff View. And like he said, you can only use it as basic reference. Having said that, Sonar is not a notation software after all. But if you save your file as *.mid you can then load it in this software - http://musescore.org/ It's not anything like Sibelius or Finale, but it's free and with some time and dedication, you can print out professionally looking scores. Hope this helps, Sam
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 02:50:16
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Guitarpima
I remember only 2 midi guitars. Casio and Charvel had one. The Charvel had to connect to a GTM-6 or something. It was so long ago.
The Roland SynthAxe, 303 and numerous others. The Ztar. The Stepp. Ibanez IMC 1. Then the PitchRider which retrofit any guitar and made it MIDI capable. Then the Roland GK-2 as part of the GR-50 package which could also retrofit any guitar and made it MIDI capable which is the foundation of all their newer gtr synth systems. Just off the top of my head, there were many more. Of course this encompasses both MIDI guitars and guitar-like controllers. For what it's worth I use a GK-2 MIDI pickup on my Charvel/Jackson.
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SToons
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 02:52:13
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Jimbo 88
yes, you play/record a midi track, then view it in staff view. You will see notation. Be warned: notation editing is lacking in features and can be used as a sketch at best.
Or open an existing midi file, select it and open the Staff View :-)
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 08:31:38
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you can also import a mid file and then view it in staff view.
While there is a print function, and it does a WYSIWYG kinda thing.... it would be better to use a purpose built scoring program if printing is really what you want to do.
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 13:30:16
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Guitarpima
I remember only 2 midi guitars. Casio and Charvel had one. The Charvel had to connect to a GTM-6 or something. It was so long ago.
The Roland SynthAxe, 303 and numerous others. The Ztar. The Stepp. Ibanez IMC 1. Then the PitchRider which retrofit any guitar and made it MIDI capable. Then the Roland GK-2 as part of the GR-50 package which could also retrofit any guitar and made it MIDI capable which is the foundation of all their newer gtr synth systems. Just off the top of my head, there were many more. Of course this encompasses both MIDI guitars and guitar-like controllers.
For what it's worth I use a GK-2 MIDI pickup on my Charvel/Jackson.
Were all those available in the early 90s? It seemed the topic went nostalgic so I did also.
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skeematics
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 16:17:34
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Thanks alot! My intent is take a bassline track i did i midi and convert it to musical notes for a bassist to play. I hope i can print it out from staff view and email it to the bassist.
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 16:55:24
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Keep in mind that you might have to fiddle with quantizing, Fill, and Trim functions to get the music to look right. Remember, X1 will represent exactly what it's given, within the parameters you specify. You'll also want to limit the display resolution to the minimal note value used in that bass part (probably 16th's or 8's) otherwise you'll get a screen full of gibberish sometimes. Mathematically accurate gibberish, but unreadable just the same.
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 17:21:59
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"otherwise you'll get a screen full of gibberish sometimes. Mathematically accurate gibberish, but unreadable just the same."
This is the best description of the Staff View ever posted. :)
And they wonder why we want improvements.
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daveny5
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Re:MIDI to MUSIC Notation?
2012/08/16 17:28:55
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Thanks alot! My intent is take a bassline track i did i midi and convert it to musical notes for a bassist to play. I hope i can print it out from staff view and email it to the bassist. Well, you could and it will have the notes, but it may not be very easy to read because it often uses flags and not beams, and it doesn't put any articulations, no crescendo or decrescendo, no segno and coda, no repeats signs or 1st and 2nd endings, triplets or other tuplets are only sometimes indicated, and you can't add your own rests, etc.
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