MIDI-MAPPER and Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth Not Showing Up in X1 - New W7 Computer

Hi - I'm in the process of getting my new computer going (Dell XPS Studio Desktop 8100, W7/64, core i5 760, 8MB) - so far so good.  Got X1a installed as well as Band in a Box and other music programs.  X1 doing well.  I have not yet connected my digital audio interface (EMU 1616 PCI, still in "old" computer) or midi keyboard.

The "sound card" is a Realtek High Deffinion Audio and somehow there is something called Creative THX in there as well.  Little info on either.  It appears there is no ASIO, but does support WDM/KS, MME, and a few other audio drivers.

So, I have been able to play all manner of audio through the computer speakers - streaming, audio files, BIAB files both midi and audio, and in X1 - Audio only.  And here is where I need some help.

When I play MIDI in BIAB or MIDI players like VanBasco, I can see the choices for MIDI output drivers are my old friends MIDI-MAPPER and Microsoft GS Wavetable synth.  BUT in X1, the Pref/MIDI/Devices charts are empty for both input (of course) and output - where I would expect to see MIDI-MAPPER and Microsoft GS Wavetable synth.  (On my old computer (XP), X1 does indeed show the Microsoft GS Wavetable synth in the list.)

1.  Any suggestions on how to get X1 to acknowledge MIDI-MAPPER and Microsoft GS Wavetable synth in the MIDI device output?

2.  Other than denigrating comments (I can do that), any info or sources to enlightenment me on the Realtek and Creative THX thing?

Thanks

Thanks Juca - But I'm really trying to get X1 to recognize the "built in" midi output drivers that other programs recognize.

Thanks for the clarification, Beagle.  That did it.  I now show MS GS Wavetable, non MIDI-MAPPER.  My MME is called "MME (32Bit).  Since I'm running 64 bit W7 and 64 bit Sonar, I was surprised it took, and seems to work well.  And the other audio programs I use still work well.  Also, when I changed driver mode to something other than MME, the MS GS continued to stick in Sonar's MIDI Devices Output.

Thanks to both of you.

If you read the op, you know I have a fine audio interface etc.  I would feel lost without having the MS GS as with that I can quickly audition and edit multi-track MIDI files one after another - zip zip zip.  Here, sound quality is of diminished interest, composition and structure are of great interest.  Using TTS-1 in this mode would not be so quick.  The real next choice for me is to run the midi into the Fantom X GM banks. 

BTW, the MME driver trick did not work on my system (Win 7/64 bit). The GS Wavetable still doesn't show up. I was in the software business for 29 years, and one of the first rules was "don't break the old stuff."

Hi, Kelsoz - I know we can sound like a bunch of MIDI elitist snobs in our replies, but that's because we can get so weary from hearing newcomers bring up the same questions that have been answered a million times. When you said, "...I'm really trying to get X1 to recognize the "built in" midi output drivers that other programs recognize..." us boring, Sonar pros immediately know that you don't know what's good for you. In a phrase--you don't Want X1 to recognize and use that last century piece of crap (as Daveny so delicately described it). If you want MIDI files to sound decent, start using real soft synths. That's all there really is to it--and please pardon the no paragraph breaks. This Forum software is so lame that when you're using Firefox, you can't do any formatting. RB

In a phrase--you don't Want X1 to recognize and use that last century piece of crap (as Daveny so delicately described it)

Its not like I was telling him he had to go buy something else. I just said use the better of the ones that come with the product. Sorry if "crap" was offensive. 

BTW, I was running in ASIO mode when I had all these problems with the GS. I don't mean to sound like I'm on a rant, but, when I have had so much trouble with a feature on a product that I have almost 15 years of experience with I feel moved to be pretty strong about not potentially causing yourself more problems. Especially if you are a newbie. Also, if you are a newbie, it seems to me you would rather take the extra time to figure out how MIDI and soft synths work as opposed to just turning on the GS. The GS is not a very good sounding board for the potential of the the MIDI. I have on occasion almost not used a song because it sounded so cheesy on the GS, only to find that it really sounded good thru the soft synths included in Sonar. Bottom line, the more experience you have using the plugin synths in Sonar the better.

Where of course it is excellent advice to recommend using a "better" midi playback device, I think what the OP is trying to do is legit.

 There is no point writing MIDI tracks using the TTs-1 that will be ultimately be played back on the billions of MS wavetable synths the average pc person will be using to listen with. 
Do not forget that there are many MIDI composers out there who enjoy posting songs as pure MIDI. Very few people will load these songs into a DAW. 
It may sound like cheese, but it is the "standard" 
And don't forget you old timers! We used to pay #1,000- $2,000 for a sound module that sounded worse.   

It is a huge PITA to load MIDI files into Sonar just to audition them.