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MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates (Warning - Currently not advised)

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Hold off updating till reported bugs with this release have been fixed
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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 14:12:55 (permalink)
Thanks. Updating now.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 18:02:00 (permalink)
I'm showing v9.2.0 as the latest.  Correct?

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 18:50:36 (permalink)
You have to look at the point revisions to know the current version
of the plugins...


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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 21:35:51 (permalink)
When I did this update it also updates Scheps Parallel Particles if you have that.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 22:18:11 (permalink)
I did the update, but now I cannot get the Scheps Omni Channel to do anything.  It inserts and I can adjust it and change presets, etc, but it has no effect on anything, even with the modules activated.  The input and output sliders have no effect either.  It's like stuck in passthrough mode or something...

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 22:50:51 (permalink)
I have not checked but will do a quick check for you and report back.
Update
Yes you are correct. It is completely dead! My VU meters are not even moving now! 
Don't worry I am sure Waves will know soon enough and will issue another Omni Channel Update for sure.
I have contacted them and let them know to be sure.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 23:24:50 (permalink)
Jeff, thanks for the feedback, and reporting it!  I did a quick Google search earlier, but came up empty, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't just overlooking something.
 
Have reported it as well.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/14 23:56:42 (permalink)
For me, no matter where I click in the UI, it just grabs the PRE module. VERY broken.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/15 00:16:57 (permalink)
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For me, no matter where I click in the UI, it just grabs the PRE module. VERY broken.




I was having that issue with the VST2 version before the update.  The VST3 worked just fine in that regard, though.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/15 12:05:13 (permalink)
Apparently this is a Studio One and Win 7 issue only.
 
I got some instructions from Waves on how to fix but it did not work.  I have told them so and will wait to see what to do next.
 
 

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/15 13:18:05 (permalink)
Thanks for posting that problem.  I was about to run the upgrade, but since my SOC is working perfectly right now I'll hold off.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/15 13:31:44 (permalink)
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Apparently this is a Studio One and Win 7 issue only.
 
I got some instructions from Waves on how to fix but it did not work.  I have told them so and will wait to see what to do next.
 



I have not heard back from Waves yet.  I am running this on Windows 10.
 
I have reproduced the bug in three DAWs, including Studio One, Sonar, and Tracktion Waveform.  If there was a way to roll the plugin back to the previous version, I would do that.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/15 17:55:02 (permalink)
That is interesting. Especially being on Win 10. Make sure you let them know about Win 10 and the other DAW's too.  They said it was a Win 7, Studio One issue only.  I have alerted them already about your situation as well on multiple DAW's and Win 10. 
 
I suggested rolling back myself.  They either want to take control of my computer (which I am not keen to do) or phone me and take me through some steps I guess.  I will probably go with the latter. 
 
I am upgrading to Win 10 myself but not immediately.  And I have a rather large mix session coming up and I was keen to use it too. Looks like not.  Win 10 by the sound of it may not be the answer either.  
 
I am hoping they will sort it and re issue the update.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/15 19:30:42 (permalink)
I fired up Waves Central today to see if any further updates have been released, but nothing yet.
 
Both the VST & VST3 plugin versions have the same issue.
 
I wiped Waves completely off my computer and reinstalled, but nothing improved.  Abbey Road plates still works fine, but it was not updated yesterday.
 
I wonder if they are testing this on Windows, or how it ever got past their QA team?  Maybe next time I see a Waves update I will just wait a bit, LOL!  This is a downside to using a product that requires a dedicated downloader/installer, with no control over older versions...
 
As far as Win 10 goes, I would proceed slowly if you must stay productive. Maybe install it side by side on a secondary workstation until you get fully up and running.  That way you will have an immediate fall back if needed.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 02:44:18 (permalink)
I had the same results in Samplitude.  Put it on a channel and lost
all output...not a S1 only problem...


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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 09:40:06 (permalink)
I think its bigger than Win 7 and Studio One.  I am hoping they will sort and issue an new update.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 14:35:59 (permalink)
You can add Reaper and Ableton Live to the list...
 
Reaper is unique with this particular Waves SOC bug, in that it blocks all audio via the insert until the effect is bypassed.
 
With the other DAWs tested, it appears to be stuck in bypass mode.  No effect at all.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 16:28:40 (permalink)
I thought there was something wrong with My Scheps!  I hope they fix this soon!
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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 19:13:14 (permalink)
So, attempting to fix this, I did a "Repair" installation...
didn't help.  No audio until you hit bypass...not good Waves,
not good


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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 19:21:38 (permalink)
Got a ticket open with Waves support.  Will keep posted with any developments.
 
I cleaned Waves completely off my PC and re-installed.  No change.  It must be the update that is borked.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 20:09:55 (permalink)
abacab's avatar now looks very appropriate with this issue!  Just out of interest this update also updated Scheps Parallel Particles for me at the same time but that is all working fine so it must be an Omni Channel thing.
 
I am guessing the whole update is wrong and they will realise it and re release I bet.  The timing is bad for me too.  I have just record 10 college bands and am about to mix it all and was really looking forward to using this. 
 
I get the audio passing all the time, bypass or not, actually like the original abacab symptoms.  It just does nothing in my case no matter what you do. The VU's are not even responding. 

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 22:13:22 (permalink)
It would probably help get attention quicker if everybody who has seen this bug opens a ticket here:
 
https://www.waves.com/log...url=%2fcontact-support

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 22:50:11 (permalink)
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abacab's avatar now looks very appropriate with this issue!  Just out of interest this update also updated Scheps Parallel Particles for me at the same time but that is all working fine so it must be an Omni Channel thing.
 
I am guessing the whole update is wrong and they will realise it and re release I bet.  The timing is bad for me too.  I have just record 10 college bands and am about to mix it all and was really looking forward to using this. 
 
I get the audio passing all the time, bypass or not, actually like the original abacab symptoms.  It just does nothing in my case no matter what you do. The VU's are not even responding. 

Any bright side? Like giving you a chance to use CTC-1 (if you have it) and the native Fat Channel?
 
I have both, and was thinking: cool! Then the Scheps Omni Channel came along, and my first thought was: ah, crap, did I just waste my money on CTC-1 and Tape (Tape Multitrack)?
 
Now? No, I don't think so. Not because of this recent hiccup. Earlier.
 
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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 23:43:24 (permalink)
This will be interesting to see if it gets fixed before Monday.
It is the weekend. It is 1:42AM in Israel now. I don't think they work on the weekend.
The programmers would have to be called into work on Saturday or Sunday.
 
 
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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/16 23:53:01 (permalink)
Fill up the ticket queue.  Make Monday a wonderful morning to arrive at work! 

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/17 00:03:04 (permalink)
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Fill up the ticket queue.  Make Monday a wonderful morning to arrive at work! 

Waves are in Israel. Their work week starts on Sunday. The silence right now doesn't surprise me.
 
EDIT: Notice that I didn't put in an end-of-work-week day. I don't know about Waves, but when I worked for Motorola, Motorola Israel was about 3000 peeps. Many of our software development engineers were Russian emigres. For them, 6 12- to 14-hours days per week seemed like a vacation. They were just so happy to be there. And let's be nice and just say that they had plenty to work on.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/17 00:34:24 (permalink)
Certainly have no bad vibes towards the Waves staff, but it is a bit surprising that this update made it out the door as is.  Hoping for a speedy resolution! 

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/17 02:58:12 (permalink)
At least change the thread title so that a quick reader won't leap to update into this particular mess.

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Re: MM Triple D and Scheps Omni Channel Updates 2018/03/17 17:25:54 (permalink)
Done Emerald


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