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2018/11/25 19:47:13 (permalink)

MODO Bass

My MODO bass suddenly quit working in both Sonar and Cakewalk.
 
I have 2 computers and it works fine on one, but not the other one. I mean in the DAW, it works fine in stand-alone. I recently had issues with that machine and reinstalled win10 with a fresh install of everything and it still doesn't work. It loads fine, midi imports but doesn't play. If I open the MODO console and try to manually hit a note on the bass string or the keyboard at the bottom nothing happens. No movement, no sound, nothing.
 
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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/25 21:53:43 (permalink)
Are you sure that it s authorized ? When using a new os , auth get removed

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/25 22:16:51 (permalink)
What Zo said.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/25 22:42:32 (permalink)
yeah, Everything I have is 100% good to go. It was working fine on the same OS/install, then boom this started happening.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/25 22:48:33 (permalink)
Then I would try the ol "Un-Install/Re-Install" to make sure something didn't get screwed up. 
 
All your other IK stuff works?

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/25 23:30:28 (permalink)
Everything at this point on that machine is a fresh install.
 
I did make sure thevst as not frozen. I removed the synth and created a new one. I can play notes in the vst, but midi still does not play.
 

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/26 06:47:38 (permalink)
Before you go through a reinstall, try a VST reset-rescan.  That often fixes glitchy plugins.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/11/26 15:04:54 (permalink)
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I can play notes in the vst, but midi still does not play.



Make sure that the imported MIDI data is written within the note range of the bass.  For example, if the MIDI data is recorded an octave below what the bass can play, it will not sound until you shift it or transpose it.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/01 23:09:37 (permalink)
Sorry for the delay. I work ridiculous hours.
 
Anyway, I have been doing it this way for a long time. Find a drum and bass track I like, usually in Guitar Pro, export the tracks separately, import them into Cakewalk after inserting the synths of course. I'm using SD3 for the drums and MODO bass for, well, the bass.
 
SD3 works fine. I have found that MODO will work until I import the midi. I always have to transpose the bass... Process>Transpose enter 12, done. It's always worked fine until recently. Now it seems to freeze MODO. Again, the built-in keyboard won't even play a note after I import the midi.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/01 23:27:36 (permalink)
I would probably open the Cakewalk Sonar MIDI event list editor view to see what all events are contained in the imported MIDI, on the off-chance that there is some CC change in there that may be messing with MODO.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/04 01:08:28 (permalink)
Not sure where to find MIDI event list editor.
 
I just noticed something else that's al screwy. SD3... When I insert it Sonar creates the tracks, then I always set SD3 to multichannel outputs. Now it will not work. Everything goes to one channel as if I didn't select the multi outs.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/04 01:13:50 (permalink)
Your said that this is on a machine that has a fresh install of everything. Now stuff is not working like it use to.
 
Something went different with the fresh install is what I am thinking.
 
Did you do as JonD suggested and 'Reset' then 'Rescan' your plugins in CbB?

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/04 01:56:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Bflat5 2018/12/06 02:51:37
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Not sure where to find MIDI event list editor.


Just first select the MIDI track, then on the Sonar top menu: "Views: Event List".  That will open the editor with the selected track in the editor.  The first column shows the track number of the active track in the view.
 
Or else use the "Tracks" selector menu in the Event List after you have that view open.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 02:47:06 (permalink)
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Your said that this is on a machine that has a fresh install of everything. Now stuff is not working like it use to.
 
Something went different with the fresh install is what I am thinking.
 
Did you do as JonD suggested and 'Reset' then 'Rescan' your plugins in CbB?




I did and it seems to have corrected the multichannel out in SD3, but the MODO problem remains.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 07:34:57 (permalink)
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I have found that MODO will work until I import the midi.



If you load an old project w MODO that formerly worked does MODO still work?
If you take an new project, add MODO and manually input MIDI notes (not importing) does MODO keep working?
If so, with your broken project - if you delete all MODO's MIDI data does MODO start to work again?
 
If answers to all the above are Yes, then there is something in the MIDI you are importing for this project that is causing the issue.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 15:59:11 (permalink)
I haven't had MODO very long. I've made one project with it on another machine.
 
Here's what I have done so far. created a new project using different midi. Nothing. Created a new project using SI-BASS. Same thing, nothing.
 
I can see the meters moving as though it is playing, but no sound. Odd that SD3 plays fine, but no matter what Bass MIDI or plug-in I use there's no sound.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 20:12:13 (permalink)
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I can see the meters moving as though it is playing, but no sound. Odd that SD3 plays fine, but no matter what Bass MIDI or plug-in I use there's no sound.




If you substitute a piano VST (or any keyboard instrument with a full range of playable MIDI notes) for the bass, does it play?

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 20:24:54 (permalink)
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I can see the meters moving as though it is playing, but no sound. Odd that SD3 plays fine, but no matter what Bass MIDI or plug-in I use there's no sound.




If you substitute a piano VST (or any keyboard instrument with a full range of playable MIDI notes) for the bass, does it play?




It doesn't play either. I've tried Dimension Pro, SI-Bass, SI-Strings, and of course MODO. I've re-installed CbB and Removed Sonar thinking maybe the fact that it's demo mode now may have something to do with it.
 
I've used midi files that have worked with other plug-ins in the past. Nothing works now, except SD3.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 20:51:15 (permalink)
Ok, I just installed Reaper. It works perfectly. I still had to transpose the midi an octave, but MODO works as it should.
 
Something has definitely gone all funky with CbB.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/06 22:54:24 (permalink)
Oh well, sorry to hear that.
 
If you are so inclined, here are some clean install instructions in a scook post: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3802014

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/07 16:02:50 (permalink)
What channel is the midi info on? Is it the same as what Modo bass is set to receive?

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/09 19:33:25 (permalink)
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What channel is the midi info on? Is it the same as what Modo bass is set to receive?




I believe so.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/15 01:04:50 (permalink)
Did you ever get this working?

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/16 05:36:15 (permalink)
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Did you ever get this working?


 
No, but still works flawlessly with Reaper. Very strange. I can open a new project, load MODO and hit notes on the virtual fretboard and it works fine. As soon as I import ANY midi into CbB it quits working. However, when playing the track I can see the meters jumping..zero sound.
 
Latest version installed. Also, I have the latest version installed on my studio machine with no issues at all.
 
A massive HELL YEAH to the person that figures this one out. \m/

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/16 08:40:52 (permalink)
Let me ask this, when you start a new project, do you have any other midi trks that are not assigned to anything?
 
Are the output of Modo bass still the same after you import the midi?
 
Do a test: Record some midi with MODO. Export that midi, then import it back in and see if it works.
 
Also how are you importing the midi? With the Import command in the menu or just dragging it in?
 

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/16 20:32:26 (permalink)
When I start a new project I open an empty project. Insert the synths I want to use then import the midi with the import command. For bass I always transpose it up a whole octave.
 
I don't think there's any changes in the output. I've messed with that and nothing works. I will try the test you suggested when I can get back that machine.
 
I'm curious if anyone else is having midi/synth issues?

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/16 22:14:14 (permalink)
So are you saying that after you import the MIDI, you can not get any sound out of the bass instrument, even if you click on the fretboard?
 
If you are using a simple instrument track, try the "Split instrument track" to get the separate MIDI and audio tracks, then investigate the output routing of the tracks.

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/17 10:42:33 (permalink)
Never thought to ask about a SIT! (Simple Instrument Track) I always use split trks and assumed (I know) he was using split trks too!! Good question abacab!

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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/17 10:42:33 (permalink)
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Re: MODO Bass 2018/12/17 14:58:09 (permalink)
Put the MIDI file you are importing somewhere we can download it and take a look.  Or create a brand new blank Cakewalk project, add MODO and import the MIDI and save the project and put that somewhere we can download it (Dropbox/Google Drive/One Drive/etc).  Perhaps the problem is something in the MIDI file itself.
 

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