kitekrazy1
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MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
The MOTU is a lot less and seems to have more features but I guess to fork out that kind of money for either which one do you think would have more life support. I've never had a MOTU or an RME. RME seems to always support their legacy products with drivers. Does MOTU have that history?
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/24 14:17:50
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cannot speak as to motu... that was in the running when i bought my babyface pro. all i can say is, the rme just blows me away with it's sound, the software is DEEP, and it's cool to have effects that don't print, or do, and zero latency monitoring (practically) is sweet too.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/24 23:39:45
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I'm a MOTU guy... Ultralite AVB and it is flawless with ultra low latency nice software and excellent support. As for long term support, I would take a look at MOTU's driver download page and base your decision on that. Same as for any other manufacturer.
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rumleymusic
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/26 05:01:36
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MOTU has had very good support and drivers for the past 8 years or so. The only better brand on the PC for drivers is RME. Having owned MOTU products before, I can definitely say the sound of the new RME units are a good step up. The build quality is also quite a bit better, being manufactured in Germany rather than China.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/26 10:30:21
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Jim Roseberry wrote a lengthy piece on the MOTU.
It's a quality piece of gear.
I have the RME UFX (studio) and Babyface in the office.
Never regretted paying what "quality " costs.
For me the convenience of having my studio rig recognize the Babyface instantly when it's in the office for updates is "priceless"!
But, If I was shopping, I'd check the MOTU out.
RME drivers are flawless.
Sounds like the MOTU drivers are as well.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/26 12:23:12
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If you want a low priced, high quality interface, I HIGHLY
recommend the Audient ID4 or above. For $200 for the ID4,
you get class A Preamps and converters, and a JFET DI
and Neutrik on the Mic input on the ID4, has DAW parameter Control,
and it's built like a tank! And you get $500 worth of plugins!
It's a STEAL! Pure quality for peanuts by comparison. Don't take
my word for it, check out the reviews!
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/27 00:49:47
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rumleymusic
MOTU has had very good support and drivers for the past 8 years or so. The only better brand on the PC for drivers is RME. Having owned MOTU products before, I can definitely say the sound of the new RME units are a good step up. The build quality is also quite a bit better, being manufactured in Germany rather than China.
My MOTU Ultralite AVB says "Made In USA" on the box.... https://imgur.com/a/thtTz
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kitekrazy1
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/27 00:57:57
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/10/27 01:59:26
cclarry
If you want a low priced, high quality interface, I HIGHLY
recommend the Audient ID4 or above. For $200 for the ID4,
you get class A Preamps and converters, and a JFET DI
and Neutrik on the Mic input on the ID4, has DAW parameter Control,
and it's built like a tank! And you get $500 worth of plugins!
It's a STEAL! Pure quality for peanuts by comparison. Don't take
my word for it, check out the reviews!
I have Steinberg UR22 that is a nice unit. My concern is 8 years from now will a unit be a doorstop. With RME that is not the case. Interesting that as long as board have PCI slots my M-Audio cards still function. Those were only $99. My Yamaha SW1000XG at $500 became a doorstop when they wouldn't function with an nVidia 2 chipset or an Intel 915 chipset. Yamaha is the king of no legacy support.
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rumleymusic
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/27 15:10:16
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My MOTU Ultralite AVB says "Made In USA" on the box.... Well, that's new. Maybe it was just the 828mkii I used to have. I stand corrected.
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rumleymusic
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/27 15:14:37
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I have Steinberg UR22 that is a nice unit. My concern is 8 years from now will a unit be a doorstop. With RME that is not the case. Interesting that as long as board have PCI slots my M-Audio cards still function. Those were only $99. My Yamaha SW1000XG at $500 became a doorstop when they wouldn't function with an nVidia 2 chipset or an Intel 915 chipset. Yamaha is the king of no legacy support.
Yeah, it doesn't help that Steinberg IS Yamaha now. I had an MR816x that had no more support after one update for windows 7. The drivers were terrible on any Windows operating system. It gave me so much trouble on one gig, I immediately replaced it with a UFX.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2017/10/28 06:06:43
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I'm not an Audient fan. I own the asp880.
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/02 00:50:34
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rumleymusic
MOTU has had very good support and drivers for the past 8 years or so. The only better brand on the PC for drivers is RME. Having owned MOTU products before, I can definitely say the sound of the new RME units are a good step up. The build quality is also quite a bit better, being manufactured in Germany rather than China.
Hello Daniel. This is my first post in this forum. Indeed I joined the forum just so I could comment on one aspect of your post, since I found online so little discussion about the Ultralite Mk4: My understanding is that the new RME units are 100% made in China, whereas the new MOTU units are in part made in abroad (in China, I assume) and are in part made in the US, then are finally assembled and tested in the US. If you have info to the contrary, please let us know. Thank you.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/02 02:13:47
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I'm shopping audio interfaces and the MOTU Ultralite mk4 is what I'm liking right now. If I had more money to spend I'd try RME but the Ultralite price point is right what I want to spend.
I've had a MOTU 828 mkII for a long time (probably 10 yrs) - bought it used, the front instrument inputs failed a long while back (apparently common) but it has scaled through all my new windows box builds (I bought a TI FW card) and new windows versions and I plan to use it stand alone to get another 8 analog inputs into the Ultralite via litepipe so I feel like it has had legs and can be still be useful in the future.
Other than the fact it always works I love being able to take a glance at the meters to make sure I'm sending to all the channels I think I am.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/02 18:02:51
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MOTU UL beats RME BF Pro in all technical specifications: I/O, DSP, stand-alone mode, even latency. And BF is made in china. Who knows why people (including myself) are considering RME... 
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/02 18:27:28
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☄ Helpfulby Snaxster 2018/01/02 22:45:51
You can't make a bad choice between the Babyface Pro and Ultralite mk4.
Both have an average noise-floor of ~-114dB.
Both are excellent low-latency performers.
Both companies have long support life for their products.
If you're looking for a quality stereo I/O audio interface, also check out the Apollo Twin.
Average noise-floor is ~-116dB.
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/05 18:00:37
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azslow3
MOTU UL beats RME BF Pro in all technical specifications: I/O, DSP, stand-alone mode, even latency. And BF is made in china.
Who knows why people (including myself) are considering RME...
eehhhmmm... I just bought one (Babyface Pro) two weeks ago ... the unit itself is perfect for my needs. The only difficulty I've had is learning the signal flow of their Total Mxi FX software, which is incredible once you get the hang of it... I too was considering a MOTU, but was concerned about their Windows drivers... I'm sure they are more than up to speed now with Win 10, as as Roseberry said, you probably can't go wrong with either one. Salud!
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/08 00:12:33
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Reading the thread and the comment about where they are made had me digging around the net. First thing I did was look at some pictures of the said interfaces. Interesting that Motu really doesn't say on the web site, nothing, people on their forum all seem to not no or care, and there's never a reliable answer, but best guess is that some are partially assembled in USA. I would think any brand these days that is 100% domestic built will display that fact in bold print. But here's the back of an RME Fireface. The Babyface is probably made in China, it would be on the bottom I guess I couldn't find where it was made anywhere either. But I do believe there's some sort of law that this is displayed somewhere on the device. Most manufacturers will have lower priced units which will most always be offshore. 
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/08 21:37:25
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Re: MOTU UltraLite-mk4 vs. RME Babyface Pro
2018/01/08 23:30:15
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i feed my BFP wontons and general tsao's chicken,
it works great!
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