MP3's not playing on certain devices?

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2013/09/14 15:31:58 (permalink)

MP3's not playing on certain devices?

I export to 320 mp3's to get the best quality and then to CD and they play fine on the computer and in the car but won't play on my Sony stereo or a sony boom box.
Is there another format to make these work?


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    John
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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/14 18:03:45 (permalink)
    How about CD format?

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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/14 22:22:25 (permalink)
    Not all CD players can play MP3 CDs. Usually, unless the CD player says "MP3" somewhere on the player, it won't play them. Usually older CD players won't work. MP3 disks are data disks, not audio disks so it requires a different kind of player. 

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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/14 22:33:03 (permalink)
    Thanks John,
    I don't see a "CD format" in the drop down list. Does it go by another name?
    Other than that, or as Dave indicates, buying a new CD player, it means coming up with another way to audition my songs on various systems. 
    I guess I should get an mp3 player and some external speakers or figure out how to make it play thru the stereo.


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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 00:29:59 (permalink)
    In a way its sort of funny. CD format is the way music is placed on a CD. CD players understand that format. MP3 came about after a method was made to "rip" CDs of their music. Now you are using a format that was not meant to be use by CDs, that is MP3 to play on all CD players and it wont work. Stick to CD-DA.
     
    Sonar can burn a CD using the CD format. Going to the extra step of making an MP3 is unnecessary. 
     
    "CD-DA stands for Compact Disc-Digital Audio and was developed by Sony and Philips in the 1980s and is defined in the Red Book standard. It is exactly the same format as CDA, it is just that CDA is a more succinct abbreviation than CD-DA and so is more commonly used."
     
     

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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 01:31:36 (permalink)
    "Sonar can burn a CD using the CD format. Going to the extra step of making an MP3 is unnecessary."
    So to play on my various players I should be using sonar for burning instead of exporting to mp3?
    I take it that would be thru Utilities/burn Audio CD?
    I'd need to export to wav files in 16 bit first I think?
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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 02:53:07 (permalink)
    Yes, you need to have a suitable wave file for burning. 16 bit at 44.1 is CD quality.
     

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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 10:04:13 (permalink)
    Ratz, I have all mine in wav as well as mp3, in but 32 bit.
    I will need to re export all 45 songs to that format unless there is a converter?
    Isn't this where dither come in?


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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 15:52:05 (permalink)
    Yes dither is needed when converting down to a lower bit depth.
     
     

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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 16:04:50 (permalink)
    I use Media Monkey (there's a free version) to burn CDs. It allows 24 bit files as input (including FLAC files) for burning to CD.
     
    I never investigated whether it applies dither because the convenience outweighed the answer for me.
     
    I add that Media Monkey's MP3 conversion is not as good as Lame imho.
     
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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 20:10:05 (permalink)
    I just found out that Audacity converts 32 to 16 and I have that.
    Going to give it a try.
    Also will use Sonar Utilities for burning and will let you know.
    Thanks all.
     
     


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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 22:23:29 (permalink)
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    Thanks John,
    I don't see a "CD format" in the drop down list. Does it go by another name?
    Other than that, or as Dave indicates, buying a new CD player, it means coming up with another way to audition my songs on various systems. 
    I guess I should get an mp3 player and some external speakers or figure out how to make it play thru the stereo.




    You shouldn't be auditioning your songs in MP3 format anyway. MP3 is a compressed format and even at 320 bits, it's still compressed and suffers from a loss of fidelity. Audition them as WAV files first and then when it sounds the way you want it. try an MP3 to see how it sounds, if that's how you plan to distribute your music. 

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    Re: MP3's not playing on certain devices? 2013/09/15 22:55:31 (permalink)
    Thanks again John.
    Yes it makes sense.
    I'll convert my 32 bit wavs to 16 and put them on a CD thru the Sonar utility.


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