msmcleod
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Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
In EQ or Dynamics mode on the Mackie C4 you can only see the first ProChannel module.
The Set up/down buttons walk though other plugins, but only ever select the very first ProChannel module in the chain.
I know this has been raised in the past, but it was a while ago.... could this be fixed?
Thanks,
Mark.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/16 19:51:44
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Console view or the inspector prochannel window on the left?
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/16 20:02:27
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msmcleod
I know this has been raised in the past, but it was a while ago.... could this be fixed?
Theoretically that can be fixed... Back in time I have asked if someone is ready to cooperate for that (I do not have C4 and there is no software emulators for it). Practically, there are many bugs in Sonar/CbB control surface part for ProChannel (in general and in particular method used by MackieControl to access plug-ins). There was no volunteers and I have other priorities at the moment. If your target are just EQ and Platinum stock Compressors, in any ProChannel position, you can try http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,341.0.html But I do not remember wether it helps C4 (was written for and tested with MCU only). If you target other modules, there is no known solution.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/16 21:18:38
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msmcleod
I know this has been raised in the past, but it was a while ago.... could this be fixed?
Theoretically that can be fixed... Back in time I have asked if someone is ready to cooperate for that (I do not have C4 and there is no software emulators for it).
Practically, there are many bugs in Sonar/CbB control surface part for ProChannel (in general and in particular method used by MackieControl to access plug-ins). There was no volunteers and I have other priorities at the moment.
If your target are just EQ and Platinum stock Compressors, in any ProChannel position, you can try http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,341.0.html But I do not remember wether it helps C4 (was written for and tested with MCU only). If you target other modules, there is no known solution.
Hi Azslow, If you think it's possible to fix, I may have a go at it myself. Is the relevant revision in your github history? If so, I'll take a look. I've only just got my C4 - it arrived this afternoon, so I'm just getting used to it. If you do find you have time to look at it, I'd be happy to work with you and/or write a C4 emulator if it helps. Thanks, Mark.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/16 23:24:43
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In EQ or Dynamics mode in Sonar back in the day was used to see the Time works plugins as they were the default EQ and Comp for sonar, Since Sonar has changed so much over the years, the In EQ or Dynamics were overlooked.
In Cakewalk Platinum now, only the first plugin in Pro channel can be seen, however, on a audio track, all of your plugins may be seen.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/17 06:18:50
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msmcleod
Is the relevant revision in your github history? If so, I'll take a look.
Yes. If you need some explanations for it, let me know. Jesse G
In EQ or Dynamics mode in Sonar back in the day was used to see the Time works plugins as they were the default EQ and Comp for sonar, Since Sonar has changed so much over the years, the In EQ or Dynamics were overlooked.
In Cakewalk Platinum now, only the first plugin in Pro channel can be seen, however, on a audio track, all of your plugins may be seen.
The mod I have linked solves exactly that problem, and included INI are for modern ProChannel EQ/Comp.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/18 23:16:05
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Azlow3, Thanks for the modification. Have you thought about making a video tutorial for this and adding it to YouTube because I hate reading.... I like watching tutorial videos much better, so I can rewind them over and over again.....  Gonna try it tonight
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/19 00:34:39
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I implemented Azlow3's MCU modification and it works great. I now have EQ and Compression by using the Mackie Control DYN and EQ button in Pro Channel just like back when the Time Works plugins were included with Sonar. The website, states the plugins are now 64 bit. ~~~> SONIC TIMEWORKSShould I try to install them..., I don't think I will.  Thanks again Azlow3
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msmcleod
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/19 00:40:27
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Jesse - is this using the C4, or the MCU ?
I've not had a chance to try out the C4 yet, but glancing at the code it seems Azslow's implemented it in a fairly generic place.
M.
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msmcleod
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/19 08:49:16
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It's just occurred to me... you must be using the MCU, as the MackieControlC4 is a separate DLL, which I'll need to build myself.
Hopefully I'll get a chance to build it and try it out later today.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/19 11:52:39
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Where you have found MackieControlC4 DLL? To work with MCU and XT, it has to be the same DLL (that is how separate instances communicate).
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msmcleod
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/19 12:05:44
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azslow3
Where you have found MackieControlC4 DLL? To work with MCU and XT, it has to be the same DLL (that is how separate instances communicate).
Yeah, realised that when I compiled it! It's just the one DLL. I've tried out the C4 with your latest dyneq branch, plus my "Double Click Selects Track" changes (this mod isn't needed for the Mackie MCU, but it is for my Korg nanoKontrol Studio). There's one small issue, in that the DYN button brings up the EQ, and the EQ button brings up the compressor but apart from that it works perfectly, and to be honest I can live with this small quirk. Thank you Azslow  Mark.
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Re: Mackie C4 can only control first ProChannel module
2018/04/20 01:03:36
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msmcleod
Jesse - is this using the C4, or the MCU ?
I've not had a chance to try out the C4 yet, but glancing at the code it seems Azslow's implemented it in a fairly generic place.
M.
MSMCloud, I am using the Mackie Control Universal.
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