Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface?

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2010/11/02 23:55:28 (permalink)

Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface?

Hi all,
Does anyone use a Mackie Onyx firewire mixer as an interface?  If so, how are the specs?  Low latency?  Good drivers? Anything I should be aware of with compatibility with Win7 x64?

  I need to update the analog mixer in my studio and this might fit the bill if it performs well.  I might even be able to get rid of my MOTU Ultralite.  Finally!  Thanks for the help.

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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 00:31:41 (permalink)
    THey dont have a reputation for having good drivers
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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 05:36:01 (permalink)
    Mine performs alright most of the time but as already stated, driver support could be better. Lowest latency that I can use on my system is input 2.9 msecs., output 5.8 msecs., total round trip 8.7 msecs.  Works with Windows 7 with no problems. Pretty good pres. and converters.
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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 09:26:41 (permalink)
    I am using an Allen & Heath ZED-R16 firewire and love it.  I have seen no performance flaws as of yet.  Faders are not motorized but that has not been an issue.  Not exatcly answering your question but might be another option to look at.

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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 14:36:18 (permalink)
    I was trying to decide between the Mackie Onyx FW and the A&H ZED R16 BretB mentions.

    Went with the A&H and haven't looked back. 18 in & 18 out, combine it with an ADAT interface and you have 24 in & out if you need more. Great pres and the EQ is fantastic. Round the same ££ as well for the comparative Onyx.
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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 21:56:32 (permalink)
    I use the Mackie Onyx 1640 as both a live board and live recording.  4 1+ hour sets no problems.  Sounds pretty good too.  I then bring the resultant tracks home whereI use my FirePod to mix/master. This works for me and I don't have to worry about the Mackie drivers latency with live recording.

    I'm just saying this works for me!

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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 22:11:13 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone for the input.  I considered the A&H boards but I found they are only 16 bit which kinda made me turn towards the Mackie.  I ordered the 1220i Onyx board today so we'll see how it works.

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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/03 22:22:57 (permalink)
    For the record, the A&H ZED-R16 is:
    Analogue to Digital conversion 24bit 114dB dynamic range (A wtd)
    Digital to Analogue conversion 24bit 118dB dynamic range (A wtd)
    Sample Rate 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz

    Good luck with the Mackie.


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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 00:20:24 (permalink)
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    For the record, the A&H ZED-R16 is:
    Analogue to Digital conversion 24bit 114dB dynamic range (A wtd)
    Digital to Analogue conversion 24bit 118dB dynamic range (A wtd)
    Sample Rate 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz

    Good luck with the Mackie.




    Wow, I read Paul White's review in SOS-

    "The interface itself is fixed at 16-bit, and operates at sample rates of 32kHz, 44.1kHz and 48kHz, as determined by the host software and driver settings. A record output is provided on phonos, which is fed pre- the master fader but post- the master insert points. Clearly, this level of digital interfacing isn't nearly comprehensive enough for multitrack recording, unless of course you only lay down one or two tracks at a time."

    If the Mackie doesn't do the trick I will definitely check out the A&H.  How are the converters?  What is the latency like?

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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 02:47:45 (permalink)
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    BretB


    For the record, the A&H ZED-R16 is:
    Analogue to Digital conversion 24bit 114dB dynamic range (A wtd)
    Digital to Analogue conversion 24bit 118dB dynamic range (A wtd)
    Sample Rate 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz

    Good luck with the Mackie.




    Wow, I read Paul White's review in SOS-

    "The interface itself is fixed at 16-bit, and operates at sample rates of 32kHz, 44.1kHz and 48kHz, as determined by the host software and driver settings. A record output is provided on phonos, which is fed pre- the master fader but post- the master insert points. Clearly, this level of digital interfacing isn't nearly comprehensive enough for multitrack recording, unless of course you only lay down one or two tracks at a time."

    If the Mackie doesn't do the trick I will definitely check out the A&H.  How are the converters?  What is the latency like?


    You sure you got the right ZED?? The only sound on sound review I've seen is this one which was written by Robin Bigwood http://www.soundonsound.c...llenandheathzedr16.htm

    I have huge respect for Paul White but if that's what he wrote about the ZEDR-16 (and I very much doubt he did) he clearly hasn't a clue what he's talking about.......

    EDIT: Regarding latency. I have no idea how low it will go, I run mine at way over 2000 msecs. One of the main reasons for buying a mixer interface is so latency is not an issue, you monitor through the board. Unless of course you wish to input monitor in which case don't buy a mixer buy a card based interface as you'll always get lower latency that way.
    post edited by FastBikerBoy - 2010/11/04 03:00:10
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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 05:26:52 (permalink)
    Here is the link to the Paul White review.

    http://www.soundonsound.c...allenandheathZED14.htm

     I have great respect for his writing as well.  The mixer is not the main interface in my setup-I just want the most versatility in my setup as I can.  Options are always good!



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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 05:41:50 (permalink)
    That explains it then. That's a review for the ZED14, what BretB and I are referring to is the ZED-R16 which is a completely different beast. 18in/18out via firewire, MIDI control surface, etc. etc.

    Have a look at one of THESE, they are the dogs....
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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 05:55:20 (permalink)
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    That explains it then. That's a review for the ZED14, what BretB and I are referring to is the ZED-R16 which is a completely different beast. 18in/18out via firewire, MIDI control surface, etc. etc.

    Have a look at one of THESE, they are the dogs....
    Oh yum!!!! More coin than I wanted to spend for what will basically be a part time player but the specs for the R16 are pretty yummy!

    Have a look at one of THESE, they are the dogs....


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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 09:00:53 (permalink)
    "Dogs" are good in the UK?  To be a DOG in the US is not flattering.

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    Re:Mackie Onyx Firewire Mixers-Do they perform well as an interface? 2010/11/04 11:34:25 (permalink)
    The full saying about something that's really good is "It's the dog's bo11ocks". Forgot that may not come across that way elsewhere.
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