Major issue with AD 2 and CAL split note to tracks...

Are there any instrument tracks in the project? CAL does not know about instrument tracks and they throw off the track count.

fwiw I tried it anyway, and even when the data is on a dedicated midi track and the VST (AD2) is totally removed, as soon as I go to play the track, Sonar still crashes.....

thanks - but there is something broke I think!
 
I just copied the midi data, then closed the project , started a brand new one pasted in the MIDI data to a midi track and then ran CAL. Cal splits the notes correctly but as soon as PLAY is pressed Sonar crashes!!

joden
thanks - but there is something broke I think!
 
I just copied the midi data, then closed the project , started a brand new one pasted in the MIDI data to a midi track and then ran CAL. Cal splits the notes correctly but as soon as PLAY is pressed Sonar crashes!!

I imagine there is more information to the actual recipe and the result "Sonar crashes!!"
It is impossible to guess what actually happened from the information provided.

Scook that is it, it IS that simple truly. Created a simple instrument track for AD2 dragged-dropped all the midi loop parts to it, bounced it all to clips to get a single clip and then ran Split Note To Tracks. thats it m8!!
 
Part two, was simply doing a ctrl-c on the midi data, opening a brand new project with no tracks, inserted a midi track crtrl-v paste then split note to track cal again. The ONLY difference is on the new project I did not get the message as advised in the OP.

okay just as an experiment I started a new project and just recorded straight piano (just midi data). Just a couple of bars...ran SNTC and again it split the notes correctly but Sonar crashed on play.

well it is the standard windows message the program has caused blah de blah....anyway In think a fault report has gone to CW, for whatever good that will do.
 
And really the configuration will have nothing to do with it. If everything else runs as expected then it is hardly going to be the configuration ne'est-ce pas?

thanks

oops yeah that's a typo...was always split note to track. I think you have maybe hit upon it Danny...you are actually recording in MIDI data...and when I tested with a piano track (in a new project) SNTT worked fine. So methinks it might actually be something to do with the pasting of midi clips as you suggested. Thing I did was bounce the clips ..so maybe that did something?? I might try it on a single midi loop (8 bars) prior to bouncing and see what happens.
 
Thanks much for trying to see if you could repeat it there and your other input!
 
Cheers

I have used SNTT on a regular basis and encountered this problem that is kinda similar. My process has been splitting and saving the project before hitting play. This way if it crashes I can re-open the project with the splits already there and it plays fine. This didn't seem to be a problem until about X3.
Sometimes the split goes well and the tracks play but I always place those tracks in a track folder and after moving them to the folder it will crash!
SO, I have gotten to where I split and save, create folder and move tracks to it and save, this way at least if I crash I can re-open the project at the last step I was at. A pain but it works.
I honestly do not remember for sure but I don't think I encountered this until X3.

joden
oops yeah that's a typo...was always split note to track. I think you have maybe hit upon it Danny...you are actually recording in MIDI data...and when I tested with a piano track (in a new project) SNTT worked fine. So methinks it might actually be something to do with the pasting of midi clips as you suggested. Thing I did was bounce the clips ..so maybe that did something?? I might try it on a single midi loop (8 bars) prior to bouncing and see what happens.
 
Thanks much for trying to see if you could repeat it there and your other input!
 
Cheers

Ah you're quite welcome....I just wish I could help.
 
Ok, whew...glad that was a typo! Hahaha! I may have figured something else out that you can try if you want to, joden. I'm also wondering if the SNTT CAL itself may be the culprit. The reason I say that, when I mentioned I was a SNTT prostitute, I really wasn't kidding. LOL! I literally created my own SNTT CAL files due to a very strange drum kit. I have V Drums pads all over the place and assigned toms where they weren't supposed to be. A bud of mine knew how to create custom CAL files so I told him what I would like to see because the whole note value thing was annoying to me. I wanted to look at a midi track and at a glance, know what it was.
 
That said, in all my years of using that custom SNTT file, I have never crashed after using it and pressing play. This brings me to another hypothesis....
 
My left hand is in a just about permanent, ctrl+s form. LOL! Every major change I make in a project gets a save. It was my belief (though this is a crap statement today and not something I believe anymore) that Sonar would crash after a certain amount of time and saving would restart that "crash clock". The more I saved my projects, the less they would crash. Today (touches wood and thanks God) I don't save as often (which is stupid of me) because Sonar doesn't crash like it once did and my work pc's are beasts. Though that probably doesn't do you any good and I'm just talking out my butt lol....I'd be willing to send the custom CAL file to you if you wanted it.
 
Now MY drum midi note numbers and yours will most likely be different. So when it splits the notes to tracks and names them, what you hear may not be what you see. I've heard others who have had problems with the stock CAL files, but I never had an issue with this custom one my friend made me. As my drum pads increased, I opened up the stock file and looked at the one he made me.....I saw how he made it and made my own from there. I can either give you the original he made for me or the last one I created myself. Neither has ever given me a crash.
 
So though they may not work for you and the drums you have, you can at least see if maybe it's the CAL file itself and how it may be processing? I really don't know. I'm horrible when it comes to deep trouble shooting Sonar. I either figure out my own issues by accident or I call them on the phone. They have helped me fix my issues the 3 times I have called tech support.
 
The issue we may have here is scook mentioned that CAL files are no longer under development. That guy knows his stuff and has helped me a billion times. LOL! That said, I would *think* that if the bakers are going to include CAL files in Sonar that they should work right. I would definitely try and contact someone. You, Sid and Tom have legitimate gripes in my opinion. If something IS going on, I would think the bakers would be curious to take a look at it in THIS program. They've put a lot of time into Plat from what I've seen. It's been the most stable version of Sonar that I have ever used. I would definitely attempt to bring this to someone's attention that IS someone. It won't hurt to try.
 
In the meantime, if you want to try that CAL file I have for drums, you are welcome to it. Send me a message and I'll send it to you. :)
 
-Danny

Got your message and emailed you the files. :)
 
-Danny

Doesn't matter if you use simple tack or midi, and audio, Sonar Platinum will crash, when you hit play. I posted this same thing yesterday, using a variety of drum vsts. Once you hit play, after CAL split the notes to tracks, CRASH. This same procedure works with Sonar X3 producer without a problem.

W10 here Danny. Although I am not sure how that would affect it tbh??

Just tried it then on my Win7 machine and yes - a lockup for a couple of seconds when I hit play after doing the split and then a crash. Very interesting. I wonder if the CAL script is doing something funky with port assignments or something? Time to have a look-see...!