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2014/03/12 12:18:31 (permalink)

Man Has 5 Wives

Did you see this new reality series on TV? Some guy in Utah has married 5 women.He has 24 kids to them. He spends 1 night a week with each one.
 
What was this guy thinking?? 
 
I knew poligamy was legal in Utah.I didn't think anyone actually did it...and 5 wives. Can you imagine that 5th marriage proposal? He must be a really busy guy.

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 12:26:26 (permalink)

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 12:37:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2014/03/15 19:09:36
With an average of 5 kids per wife, the wives will be spending their days changing nappies, etc. and not working.
That leaves him supporting 29 people and 6 homes...  unless he's head of MS or Apple he aint gonna have a job that can do that, so he'll be sat on his arse watching tv while counting the welfare cheques...
 
So no,  he isn't a busy guy...

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 12:46:28 (permalink)
I wondered the same thing Karyn, how he did it......my first thought was that the TV show itself is probably lucrative. A few of his wives  have jobs. I don't know how they would have much time to work with that many kids and all of the work that would make.
 
He owns a construction business. On one of the vids he says that their grocery bill is 4000 american dollars a month. That is even more in euros.
 
 

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 12:49:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2014/03/12 13:59:04
I didn't think it was legal anymore.  I never got polygamy in the first place.  One set of in-laws is bad enough. 

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 13:07:04 (permalink)
In an unrelated story, a Utah man has just won an Olympic Gold medal in Apologizing. His wives accepted the medal on his behalf and said that they would present it to him as soon as he woke up. They said that he typically collapses into a coma on Valentine's Day and doesn't wake up for at least a month. They were sure he should have time to appreciate the medal once he got caught up on a backlog of chores.
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 13:20:12 (permalink)
Why don't you ever hear about a woman with five husbands?
 
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 13:58:12 (permalink)
Good question....
 
 
Because it's usually the man who asks for her hand in marriage? ....and....
 
 
They can only handle one of us  and even that's a lot.

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 14:22:10 (permalink)
My wife proposed to me....and I wouldn't have said yes to any other....and strange enough but true, there were more.
 
 
 
 
I probably wouldn't have said yes to her but she called and asked me while I was on a fishing trip at Lake Powell, I was so drunk/stoned I didn't even know until I got back to town. 1975. Best move I ever made and can't even claim I knew what I was doing.
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 14:36:08 (permalink)
Now that I Am single I like it. I was married once for 38 years. Now ......No attachments. Just a tractor license

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 14:53:48 (permalink)
A woman with five husbands would be far more impressive.


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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 15:18:52 (permalink)
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A woman with five husbands would be far more impressive.


.....and probably a bit dangerous.

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 16:10:59 (permalink)

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 16:44:32 (permalink)
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I knew poligamy was legal in Utah.I didn't think anyone actually did it...and 5 wives.


 
Part of the law against bigamy in Utah was struck down by a federal court, but the gist of the prohibition remains in force:
https://ecf.utd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?211cv0652-78
 
"The court finds the cohabitation prong of the Statute unconstitutional on numerous grounds and strikes it. As a result, and to save the Statute, the court adopts the interpretation of “marry” and “purports to marry,” and the resulting narrowing construction of the Statute, offered by the dissent in State of Utah v. Holm, 2006 UT 31, 131-53, 137 P.3d 726, 758-66, thus allowing the Statute to remain in force as prohibiting bigamy in the literal sense—the fraudulent or otherwise impermissible possession of two purportedly valid marriage licenses for the purpose of entering into more than one purportedly legal marriage."
 
Basically, you are allowed to legally marry only one wife, but you can live together with as many women as you can convince to do so. Presumably you can do that without marrying anyone as well.
 
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 16:53:51 (permalink)
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I knew poligamy was legal in Utah.I didn't think anyone actually did it...and 5 wives.


 
Part of the law against bigamy in Utah was struck down by a federal court, but the gist of the prohibition remains in force:
https://ecf.utd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?211cv0652-78
 
"The court finds the cohabitation prong of the Statute unconstitutional on numerous grounds and strikes it. As a result, and to save the Statute, the court adopts the interpretation of “marry” and “purports to marry,” and the resulting narrowing construction of the Statute, offered by the dissent in State of Utah v. Holm, 2006 UT 31, 131-53, 137 P.3d 726, 758-66, thus allowing the Statute to remain in force as prohibiting bigamy in the literal sense—the fraudulent or otherwise impermissible possession of two purportedly valid marriage licenses for the purpose of entering into more than one purportedly legal marriage."
 
Basically, you are allowed to legally marry only one wife, but you can live together with as many women as you can convince to do so. Presumably you can do that without marrying anyone as well.
 




Exactly, and as a result (from the link I posted above):
 
"Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.

"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said."

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 18:14:09 (permalink)
So that means they are not really married. They just think and say they are.
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 18:38:05 (permalink)
One headache is enough.
(Say, the comment above states he spends one night a week with each, so is he out looking for two more or are those his "bowling league" nights?  )

 
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/12 21:49:41 (permalink)
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Exactly, and as a result (from the link I posted above):
 
"Polygamists have multiple wives and dozens of children, but the state only recognizes one marriage. That leaves the rest of the wives to claim themselves as single moms with armies of children to support. Doing that means they can apply for welfare, which they do. And it's all legal.

"More than 65 percent of the people are on welfare ... compared with 6 percent of the people of the general population," Shurtleff said."




And again, applying successfully for welfare can be done without anyone marrying anyone.
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/13 00:17:47 (permalink)
I knew a guy with four wives, in Saudi Arabia. While poligamy is not uncommon, 4 is considered to be a lot. One of the rules is you have to be able to demonstrate you can support them before the marrage.

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/14 09:28:45 (permalink)
They likely all share the same house. Still, I can't imagine the pandemonium in that house.
 
One family in this area has 25 kids.... yep, as far as I know, it's one mom and one dad.... who seemingly have never heard of modern birth control.  I believe, if I remember the story correctly, they are all their natural kids. None are adopted. Due to their ages, many of the kids are now out on their own so they're not all living in the house.
 
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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/14 11:20:12 (permalink)
Karyn ...
That leaves him supporting 29 people and 6 homes...  unless he's head of MS or Apple he aint gonna have a job that can do that, so he'll be sat on his arse watching tv while counting the welfare cheques...
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I would send the bills to the church! The state should not be paying for this welfare!

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Re: Man Has 5 Wives 2014/03/14 12:32:52 (permalink)
This is a much deeper issue than I thought it was. The motives are a lot different than I originally thought. For all I know the show could be a  lie and the women could all have other men elsewhere. The pretense has financial rewards.
 
 I'm wrong in saying that they are all really married according to the law in Utah, when only one of them is.
 
They can co-habit but only one marriage is recognized. Maybe another way to look at is , it isn't legal to marry 5 women and treat them like wives but you can still  do that. Sounds like a contradiction. Much like some of the issues going on in state legislatures concerning gay marriage( for the record i'm not gay )...but I do see a similarity in how this is handled.
 
 
The state doesn't seem to have a problem financially supporting the behavior and thereby helping to perpetuate something they have voted not to condone. Make sense?? Not to me.
 
This show has cost me an injury. I was laying on the sofa and I asked my wife to toss me the remote. After flying though the air for 15 ft. the remote hit me right on the head. It hit and then bounced off. I feel bad for that remote. I don't think she aimed it at me. 
 
Before I turned up the volume I thought I heard the woman say , " You've seen a lot of vaginas". My wife tells me she said something about her pajamas....whew.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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