rgfors
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Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
Hello to all, I wasn't going to post this again, but with all the work by other forum members, I just had to give credit where credit is due. This song has been redone with virtually all "live" musicians as follows: Lead Guitar: Charlie Wood (luvbucker) Rhodes: Jonas Aras (Jsaras) Drums and Percussion: Steve Demetrican (SteveD) Bass Guitar: Ed McGlaughlin (ed_mcg) Rhythm Guitar and sequencing: Randy Forshey (rgfors) As always, any and all comments are most welcome and appreciated! Mars Rising
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/09 17:35:30
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Yeah, guys! Sounds nice. Nice playing. Good sounds. I found myself kind of waiting for something to happen; but, if it was just meant to be a "mood" piece, you achieved it.
All around good work, AFAIC. Nice job!
M
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/09 22:23:16
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Hi Randy, I'll preface this by saying that I'm a total Rhodes nut .. but .. i would have involved the instrument more in your song .... kind of like this: Mars Rising .. more Rhodes ;-) I understand what Jonas was doing .. but .. there's a rhymthic counterpoint and a selling of the changes that the rhodes can do like no other instrument ;-) jeff
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 01:39:49
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hi randy, i updated the rhodes a bit if you listened to it .. same URL (above).. also .. this thing needs a bridge bad (IMHO) .. .. one idea would be G/F .. to Em/D to a root from the main part (Dmin maybe) ... the step would let you climb on the guitar and sing out a bit. jeff ps: the rhodes is way up in the mix so you can hear what i was doing .. i'd move it back at least 3db or more....
< Message edited by jmarkham -- 1/9/2005 10:49:31 PM >
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 11:12:32
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Randy, I really like how this turned out. Has a cinematic feel to it; our protagonist rides off into the desert sunset. Jeff, Some of that sound good, but I'm not sure how well that modified C chord at 0:20 works, just a little to jazzy / open sounding for our cowboy hero I think. Nice ideas otherwise. Em/D root - that's a good one. Say how about that tune you started that ended on an Esus4/F - that's just nutty (I like it).
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 14:13:07
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I'm not sure how well that modified F chord at 0:20 works, just a little to jazzy / open sounding for our cowboy hero that's too bad .. 'cause that was my favorite change ... i thought it brought some color into what was a pretty stock descent. but .. if it's a cowboy tune .. rhodes is out altogether ( circa 1942 ) jeff
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 14:26:26
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'cause that was my favorite change No doubt, it sounds great. Just takes it to a whole different place. What was the chord, I think I might have to rip it off? 
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 15:26:59
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 15:53:07
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I always preface what I say with IMHO, because I am not a musician or engineer etc. I also did not read other posts (no time today) so forgive if I repeat. The thing I really liked here was the warm organic tubey sound of the Bass and Lead guitar. Also was amazed at the quality of recordin the Drums. I found the congas or whatever in the right speaker distracting. Did not like the strings. That is a personal problem I have. I never like strings in any song anywhere 
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 16:03:05
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I like it alot. I dig the extra Rhodes version as well. The the original is
maybe a little more high contrast with the extra space and all. Very cool
for you guys to be able to collaborate like this via e-mail. The technology
today is incredible.
Pat
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 16:05:33
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Very nice! Good playing and nice song. The mix sounds a bit thick or crowded in the low-mids to me, though - like too many pieces competing for the same sonic space. Nit-picking aside, this was a pleasure to listen to.
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 16:14:18
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I think I might have to rip it off? feel free ... i did ;-) ... i think it's a C/B ( from memory). jeff edit - actually .. it's a CMaj7 inverted a couple of times....
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:39:09
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Hello M,
Thanks for taking the time to listen! I appreciate the comments..
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:41:03
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ORIGINAL: jmarkham
hi randy,
i updated the rhodes a bit if you listened to it .. same URL (above)..
also .. this thing needs a bridge bad (IMHO) .. .. one idea would
be G/F .. to Em/D to a root from the main part (Dmin maybe)
... the step would let you climb on the guitar and sing out a bit.
jeff
ps: the rhodes is way up in the mix so you can hear what i was
doing .. i'd move it back at least 3db or more....
Hello Jeff, I love the Rhodes myself (someday I will have to learn how to play one!) If you would like, I would be more than happy to send this to you as a bundle and you can have your way with the Rhodes! Let me know if you would like to collaborate on this..
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:42:17
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ORIGINAL: hornplayer
Still sounds great!
Hello Charley, Thanks for the listen!
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rgfors
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:43:36
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ORIGINAL: ed_mcg
Randy,
I really like how this turned out. Has a cinematic feel to it; our protagonist rides off into the desert sunset.
Your bass part adds a lot of feel and texture to the song, I really appreciate what you did!
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:46:38
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ORIGINAL: kiwisdontdrinktea
I always preface what I say with IMHO, because I am not a musician or engineer etc. I also did not read other posts (no time today) so forgive if I repeat.
The thing I really liked here was the warm organic tubey sound of the Bass and Lead guitar.
Also was amazed at the quality of recordin the Drums.
I found the congas or whatever in the right speaker distracting.
Did not like the strings. That is a personal problem I have. I never like strings in any song anywhere
Hello kiwis, Thanks for taking the time to listen. I'm glad you liked the bass and lead, and I agree the drum tracks are outstanding. (I like the strings! ;>))
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:47:40
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ORIGINAL: 7string
I like it alot. I dig the extra Rhodes version as well. The the original is
maybe a little more high contrast with the extra space and all. Very cool
for you guys to be able to collaborate like this via e-mail. The technology
today is incredible.
Pat
Thanks Pat, ain't the internet wonderful? Glad you liked the song..
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 21:48:45
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ORIGINAL: gdugan
Very nice! Good playing and nice song. The mix sounds a bit thick or crowded in the low-mids to me, though - like too many pieces competing for the same sonic space. Nit-picking aside, this was a pleasure to listen to.
Hello Gary, I will have a listen and see if I can hear what you are referring to on the low mids. Thanks for having a listen, and we are glad you liked it!
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 22:49:10
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it's your call mr composer .. ;-) i like what Jonas did .. don't get
me wrong .. he filled in real nice. i was trying to add more
punch on the changes.
why don't we hook up on the next one?
and rhodes .. it has a wonderful range of tones .... i like
when it buzzes and growls .. just before a tine breaks ... ;-)
jeff
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/10 23:13:42
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Nice Job fellas....fun stuff indeed....Happy trails to you.....
Mark
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/11 16:14:45
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Very nice tune with a good and clean mix.
The following reflects just my personal taste:
1. Although I'm a guitar player, the lead guitar is a bit too loud for me.
2. I'd like to hear a bit more 'air', say high frequencies.
You are all very good musicians, so keep up the good work.
Greets
Melf
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/11 23:28:04
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Thanks Mark, appreciate the listen and comments!
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/11 23:53:05
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excellent stuff Randy I still have one of your original postings of this song and this new version is just so much more organic! You and the guys did a wonderful job on this one
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/12 12:57:07
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Hello Melf,
Thanks for your comments, and for taking the time to listen.. we all appreciate it!
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/12 15:39:05
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Very nice mix. I can hear it as background music or a soundtrack maybe?
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/12 16:30:29
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ORIGINAL: kiwisdontdrinktea
I found the congas or whatever in the right speaker distracting.
shouldn't that be left speaker? i actually checked my cables after you said that, and with a set of headphones, and i'm pretty sure it's the left speaker... i've flipped my headphones a couple times without realizing it... =) since this is a great mix overall, i'll have to nitpick: i didn't find the conga distracting on my speakers, but i did on the headphones. maybe pan it back some. the lead guitar work was really good, but there are a couple notes that seem to get lost here and there and others that jump out a bit much. also, the acoustic guitar (that's what it sounds like, some kind of plucked string instrument) sounds kinda midi-ish. i loved the overall feel of the mix, very warm. the strings didn't bother me, but i also felt they were a bit ordinary - not cheesy but generic. they do the job of thickening the mix though. i liked the rhodes, but haven't listened to the other 'enhanced rhodes' track yet.
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/13 00:08:18
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Hello Shaun,
Thanks for listening again!
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/13 12:06:08
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Hey Randy!
Beautiful job here. I've been gone for awhile with the holidays and haven't had much time for the songs forum. Anyway, I haven't forgotten about our project but I haven't had much time for outside projects at the moment. I have been slowly getting session work here in Chicago that has taken up my "spare time". Call me, I want to go over the guitar parts with you.
Mitch
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RE: Mars Rising, total forum collaboration!
2005/01/13 16:54:02
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ORIGINAL: billboutin
Very nice mix. I can hear it as background music or a soundtrack maybe?
Hello Bill, Thanks for taking the time to listen, we appreciate it. Although, your comments are a bit technical (  just kidding!!)
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