Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:01:19 (permalink)
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Violation of TOS is wrong regardless of username posted under.

If I did it it wouldn't be "spam" or advertisements because I do not hold any financial interest in IK. I just talk about products that I find interesting. I find this product interesting and I am glad he posted it because I didn't know much about it. I have spent most of this week learning about Abelton Live and Reason 6.5 so this went under the radar for me. Thanks Obi for creating awareness of a product. 


Did Ableton and Propellerhead come here to create awareness of their latest developments that you'd got distracted with?

I can't remember it if they did.


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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:06:19 (permalink)
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Violation of TOS is wrong regardless of username posted under.

If I did it it wouldn't be "spam" or advertisements because I do not hold any financial interest in IK. I just talk about products that I find interesting. I find this product interesting and I am glad he posted it because I didn't know much about it. I have spent most of this week learning about Abelton Live and Reason 6.5 so this went under the radar for me. Thanks Obi for creating awareness of a product. 


Did Ableton and Propellerhead come here to create awareness of their latest developments that you'd got distracted with?

I can't remember it if they did.

What difference would it have made? Its totally different for a plug in dev to go to a site where someone might use their products vs a DAW dev who has no real interest in what other DAWs are doing. IK is not the only company I see with reps around the net helping to create awareness of their products. Obi just happens to be one of the more transparent about it. 


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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:20:34 (permalink)
Did you read my previous post before the one you quoted here.?

That's where the meat of the issue was.

I've said all I'm going to say on the subject, I have no objections to anyone making their own mind up.  I've clearly stated my views already
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:27:13 (permalink)
I read what you said I just think its one sided. I see nothing wrong with him saying hey heres a new amp check it out. if i am not interested its simple i just ignore it no harm done


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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:33:14 (permalink)
I'm fine with that POV.  Just don't tell me I'm knocking their support dept, or them as a company is all, otherwise I'll have to clarify again.

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:44:49 (permalink)
Happy Fathers Day Kev...

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 12:50:18 (permalink)
What happened here? Software thread letting people know about software. DUH! Propelerhead and Ableton would not post here because they are DAWs.

Go Obi. I don't think your a spammer or maybe you are but you don't come off as one.

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 13:43:33 (permalink)
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If I understand you, the iOS version is a bit hobbled when compared to the PC version. Correct?

The reply I got from IK sales basically said as much. The iPhone/iPad versions are made specifically for the CPU/ram of those devices so the sound quality is restricted by those limitations. Still, it would be interesting to hear a side-by-side comparison of the i-versions with the custom shop models.
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 13:59:09 (permalink)
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I'm fine with that POV.  Just don't tell me I'm knocking their support dept, or them as a company is all, otherwise I'll have to clarify again.
I wasn't saying you directly knock their support or them as a company its something that happens all over the net. Honestly I think their support for their products is a lot better than Cakewalk support. Hell I emailed Cakewalk support over 2 months ago about an issue I had and they emailed me back just a few days ago saying sorry we were busy with our sales and promotions then weren't able to resolve my issue at all and when I stumped them with a question they just stopped emailing me back. I have called tech support who have flat out avoided questions I asked because they do not know the answer to it. The only other company who has ever given me this kind of crappy support has been Akai. 

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Happy Fathers Day Kev...

...ooops wrong board even...lol
Thanks idk if u r a father but if so Happy Fathers Day to you as well. 

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What happened here? Software thread letting people know about software. DUH! Propelerhead and Ableton would not post here because they are DAWs.

Go Obi. I don't think your a spammer or maybe you are but you don't come off as one.

That's the pov that I come from. I mean maybe because they can be rewired into Sonar perhaps but Sonar's rewire doesn't work so again why bother with them posting here. I don't think many people here use any Props or Ableton products anyway. I am sure a lot of people here would use a guitar amp simulation. I would even encourage Obi to post this on the Live forums and to hook up with Propellerhead to maybe make an Amplitube Rack Extension.      


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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 16:10:08 (permalink)
I've got nothing against anyone, and I mean anyone, coming in and sayin' "Cool new stuff" check it out.

http://www.cakewalk.com/

And answering any questions that might be raised afterward.

That ain't what this is tho.

The reason you'll see IK getting so much flak is because they are one of, if not THE most aggressive spammers on the net in the industry.  That's their policy, they employ social media strategists as Obi pointed out it's his job and it probably works for them in balance between those that buy product and those like me that wont because of that policy.  Good luck to them.

But this is a community, Cakewalk's community and it is against Cakewalk's explicit Terms of Service WRT to spam, hence the report.

Check out how many places our very own good ol' cuddly Obi inhabits and check out all his posts on his profile.  Is that the community input here that you want to see become the norm?

Because that's what it would look like if it became a free-for-all.  They might at least offer Cakewalk some return for the ad space.

I'm qute happy for everyone else to be happy for Obi to be here, so why not let me be?  I didn't want to make any further comment because I've said what I thought about it so I'd rather you didn't invite me to comment further, as I'd only be repeating myself.

It's spam I personally don't like it, it's against the TOS so it's been reported by me.

The rest is down to Cakewalk to call.
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 17:58:25 (permalink)
But I like it when u reply back lol. I've seen Obi all over the net even before he worked for IK he was still talking about their stuff a lot. He is just a fan of their stuff and I don't see why that is such a bad thing. If he wasn't on IK payroll it wouldn't be a problem but since he is on payroll it is a problem I get it but hey its whatever a man's gotta eat and I would rather "spam" the net with threads like these than to flip burgers or something like that.      


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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/17 18:11:56 (permalink)
But I like it when u reply back lol.


You and many others...lol

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/18 04:34:23 (permalink)
IK Obi is giving a heads up about their new products, and he's doing it in the appropriate section of the forum. He is up front about who he works for. Don't be so precious JonBouy.





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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/18 07:27:05 (permalink)
Precious?

I'm priceless I'll have you know.

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/18 18:23:07 (permalink)
Thanks for the support from people that are interested in my posts. If you don't like it, I apologize. You have full control to ignore me and my posts. To get this back on topic here is a video of Slash doing crazy solos like only Slash can! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNec1MEDzg
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/18 18:43:15 (permalink)

To get this back on topic here is a video of Slash doing crazy solos like only Slash can!


And that has exactly what to do with the software forum?



If you don't like it, I apologize. You have full control to ignore me and my posts.


And of course the same applies here.


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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/18 18:56:01 (permalink)
Of course there are alternatives.

Here's 11 top VST's courtesy of MusicRadar.com

Don't forget getting that signature tone is a very personal thing, and with software even what is considered the best may not float your boat, so make sure you're not limiting yourself in any way and check them all out.

http://www.musicradar.com...orld-today-427789/4#!2

There are many more besides check them out if Slash don't warrant your cash.

For example I personally like many of the Revalver models where as some would disgree with that choice.
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/18 19:04:31 (permalink)
Hey Obi, what tours has Slash used Amplitube on stage or recorded credits where it's been employed?

I'm kinda wonderin' or does he use it like a practice amp and stuff for noodlin'

I was thinking it would be nice to hear a commercial track or some footage where he's usin' it in anger.  You know like the finished tone that the kids end up buying the music for.

What percentage of my purchase would be taken up by cost of the licensing deal to get him on board, or is he like you and does it simply because he loves IK Multimedia's stuff?

And what are those mystery files that Amplitube puts in system locations that we are told are completely innocuous and yet it insists on putting them there?  What do they actually do and why can't we delete them if they are so innocuous? 

I didn't really ascertain their purpose in the end, I was just informed they were nothing to worry about, has anyone found out what they actually DO?
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 07:09:19 (permalink)
Jonbouy - Slash used AmpliTube iRig on his 2010 tour... on the tour bus and in his hotel room... to write most of the Apocalyptic Love album. Slash was able to write an album on the road with it. This is what we mean by the Mobile Music Revolution! He talks about it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNec1MEDzg
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 07:52:23 (permalink)
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Jonbouy - Slash used AmpliTube iRig on his 2010 tour... on the tour bus and in his hotel room... to write most of the Apocalyptic Love album. Slash was able to write an album on the road with it. This is what we mean by the Mobile Music Revolution! He talks about it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNec1MEDzg


Cool.  Thanks.

I get it, Slash, similar to our very own, affable community member Obi, is a fully paid-up endorsee of Amplitube, nothing wrong with that.

That answers ONE of my questions. 

btw Welcome to the Cakewalk forums.
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 09:46:32 (permalink)
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 10:46:11 (permalink)
 My hunch is that the main difference between the iOS version and the computer version of the program is the resolution. In the computer version you can set the digital resolution to low/med/high and as OBi says you can run multiple instances of the same program in a computer.

 Are the limitations worth the price difference? To me they are.

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 14:36:53 (permalink)
Just grabbed it. Sounds good. 
Having a blast on the Les Paul, here. 

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 20:23:23 (permalink)
Definitely worth it IMO as well, plus these are both newly released so they are introductory prices. People have been jumping on them because the price is so low for SLASH's TONE!
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/20 21:44:40 (permalink)
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Definitely worth it IMO as well, plus these are both newly released so they are introductory prices. People have been jumping on them because the price is so low for SLASH's TONE!

Agreed. And not just for Slash fan by the way - I appreciate the guy, I can dig some of his stuff, but the models have their own merits. I'm not usually too inclined to steal peoples tones and to buy signature gear. Sure they can give you that Slash type of sound but that's not where it ends, imho. 


One might be left to wonder whether this opens the door for other authorized Marshall models. ;)





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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/22 13:53:36 (permalink)
Official Marshall models are superb. I LOVE the cabs with the Anger and Soldano models too!
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/22 16:13:29 (permalink)
Yup...I love my ANGER model.  Not only will it kick Rock and Metal behind it's great for ultra clean stuff as well.  I wish IK would team up with my ol pal Joe Egnater and model his line.  My little Rebel 20 is dang good and dang loud and just about the best (next to my 65 Fender Princeton Reverb) amp I've ever owned.

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/23 22:55:56 (permalink)
I was wondering, why Slash? There are so many other well known and much better players that have attention to their tone; Slash never enters my mind. Say, Eric Johnson, Adrien Belew, David Gilmore, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Edge, Neil Giraldo, Roger Fisher (of early Heart fame)...and on, and on. I gotta say, IK is 'jumping the shark' here. Slash is a one trick pony of a player. There's not much more to say about that. He's certainly not the only guitarist to plug into a Marshal, that's for sure. Hey, I hear Page isn't doing anything nowadays.
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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/23 23:12:58 (permalink)
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I was wondering, why Slash? There are so many other well known and much better players that have attention to their tone; Slash never enters my mind. Say, Eric Johnson, Adrien Belew, David Gilmore, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Edge, Neil Giraldo, Roger Fisher (of early Heart fame)...and on, and on. I gotta say, IK is 'jumping the shark' here. Slash is a one trick pony of a player. There's not much more to say about that. He's certainly not the only guitarist to plug into a Marshal, that's for sure. Hey, I hear Page isn't doing anything nowadays.

If I were to market a product to the masses and put a guitar player's face on it, besides Jimi Hendrix, Slash would probably be on top of my list - strictly from an advertising point of view. Not because he is the best, but he is probably the most recognizable guitar player out there. You can draw Slash with 3 lines,  and anyone who hasn't been in a coma for the last 20 years will associate that w/ guitar. Big curly hair, a top hat, a pair of round glasses - there you go. 


Of those you mentioned, Gilmour would probably be my personal pick. Page is way too diverse - it's part of his legacy, to have covered so many tones. Johnson gives me tooth aches - I never could figure what it is about his "tone". Great player, but, tone? Really?

Edge, well, as much as I dig U2, I can't think of the Edge as a brilliant guitar player - anyway, no way better than Slash, as average as you may find him. Plus, you can already daisy chain delays in AT if you want to do the Edge thing. ;)

Plus, between you and me, what do you really think the main target audience for this type of product is? I know very few accomplished musicians who use other musicians signature stuff. They may own it, just for fun, but I can't imagine, say, Eric Clapton, climbing onstage w/ a Kurt Cobain signature guitar and plug it into a Slash signature Marshall - or the iPad version of it.

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Re:Marshall. Slash. AmpliTube. The three Kings of Tone join forces in the Custom Shop 2012/06/23 23:54:03 (permalink)
@ Rain... I believe the market is guitar players. Sure, Slash is a cartoon character and that's all he is. Does a reputable company want to use a cartoon character to sell their superior products? I guess so. As for Eric, he does take his tone seriously. I find it clean yet soaring, if that makes any sense. But I can totally understand if it doesn't appeal to all. As for Edge, that dude does more than play off delays. He does incorporate tones into his playing and music. Now Slash has one sound which is not unique by any stretch of the imagination. He can sell video games, but Amplitube? Come on, I take that product pretty seriously! When you think of Marshal Amps, you may instantly think of classic gear used by countless icons of guitar. A cartoon?! Ok, let Amplitude be consider toy software, I didn't create it. So, Clapton, Cobain and Slash may have all used Marshal amps, but they don't sound at all like each other. I would say, go with someone who has a signature sound or a diverse palette in her/his work. That's all I can say about that....nothing personal.

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