Maschine controlling another vst via soanr midi ?

Hi friends ..
 
I'm facing an issue , i want to trigger another synth via maschine , the config is maschine opened as vst in sonar as well as let's say ez drummer ....i want to play in maschine and those sequencer to trigger midi in ez drummer , i don't want to open ez drummer in maschine (he doesn't see it by the way) ....
 
So let's say in bank A sound A is some i want to trigger with Ez drumer , i selected group /midi an enable Midi, i  select sound /output /midi and choose host and the channel ..
 
I unable midi input monitoring in the ez drummer midi channel , omni(to be sure) and nothing happen .... am i missing something , can't we play a sequence in Maschine and trigger another synth ? i don't want to use the drag and drop midid simply because i want to hear first what i'm playing (i want to hear EZ drummer sounds !!)
 
Thks

I have not used Machine, but check settings on that. I am not sure what is needed to pass MIDI out of the device (like a control surface). If embedded within SONAR as a VSTi, you will need "MIDI output enabled" for MIDI to be passed to other VST(i)s.

msorrels
So EzDrummer needs an audio output track and a MIDI input track.  On the MIDI Input track, make its input the Maschine VSTs Output and turn on the MIDI echo button on the track.
 

no way this what i tried , on midi input the only maschine refrence we have is the hardware , ot the vst ...

I don't have Maschine but how SONAR works with routing one VST that generates MIDI into another is pretty much the same always.  You will have to enable MIDI output in the Maschine VST.  For soft synths that usually means checking the box to enable MIDI output when you add the synth.  Or enabling MIDI output from the controls at the top of the VST window (in the VST2 drop down).  You may also have to enable Maschine itself to generate/output MIDI (something in it's options/preferences, Kontakt is like that). 
 
If you do both of those you should have a Maschine MIDI in the MIDI input list that you can use in the other soft synth's MIDI track.  Since you don't see Maschine in the MIDI input list, then you need to correctly configure it to generate MIDI output.

Good luck Zoheir 😁 bisous aux pu...❤️

msorrels
I don't have Maschine but how SONAR works with routing one VST that generates MIDI into another is pretty much the same always.  You will have to enable MIDI output in the Maschine VST.  For soft synths that usually means checking the box to enable MIDI output when you add the synth.  Or enabling MIDI output from the controls at the top of the VST window (in the VST2 drop down).  You may also have to enable Maschine itself to generate/output MIDI (something in it's options/preferences, Kontakt is like that). 
 
If you do both of those you should have a Maschine MIDI in the MIDI input list that you can use in the other soft synth's MIDI track.  Since you don't see Maschine in the MIDI input list, then you need to correctly configure it to generate MIDI output.

 
You rock , since i was using an old  maschine Template i cheked and the midi out wasn't cheked ....creating another Template as i type , thks guyz !!!!

Crowned One
I only just picked up Maschine a couple of weeks ago so I am very new to this.
I have found that if I set up a the midi track and then set the output to superior Drummer and then the input from Maschine (not in midi mode)
Also in the Group Batch midi setup option I change it from sounds channels to sounds to notes
Then change the bass note in pad mode of Maschine down from C3 to C1 I can then use Maschine to trigger Superior Drummer.
 
I then created and saved empty kit in maschine with the colours and names for the pads for easy recall.
There may be a better way but this does work and also allows me to try midi from/in Maschine and edit it as well.

The way to go .... usually you can open your drum thingy in Maschine , this is what i do but toontrack stuff don't get reconised ...
 
you can have a sound (in maschine) slot per sound , or one sound for all the kit using the Pad mode Keyboard , you will then just play with the octove up  or down and trigger the sound you wants in teh pads you want ...i found this better since there's so many sounds in toontrack , the per sound note is good if you trigger a vsti with 16 fixed type of sound ....
 
don't know if i'l clear lol