Iron Keys
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Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
Recently, (my last two projects), I've noticed that my master bus fader had somehow been set to -7.6. Not knowingly have set it to this value, I imagined I must have accidentally moved a controller which affected this. However when playing back my current project I heard it suddenly drop to -7.6, it happened as I played a note on my midi controller during playback. I've tried selecting the master bus and hitting the keys to see if one has somehow been set to control the fader somehow, but nothing happened. Any idea why my fader could be doing this? Thanks in advance.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/07 11:05:13
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It just dropped back to about -7.6 during playback again. Things I've noticed; - It does it at various points - I don't have any automation wrote - I don't have to press anything for this to occur Isn't causing the biggest of problems yet, but of course, this isn't a desirable situation by any means.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/07 12:03:18
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You have an envelope automation enabled for that master bus. Just delete it and youll be fine.. CJ
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Iron Keys
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/07 16:01:06
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Envelope automation isn't enabled, it's all disabled. I go back to find my master fader at -7.something. Something weird seems to be going on with it all. My Sonitus Gate is playing up too, so I've had to go with waves gate instead.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/07 17:49:48
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I seem to remember you have had a few threads about automation and using your controller with ACT, correct? So are you sure automation is not hidding on you somewhere. If you have been messing with ACT then I could even see that ringing your front doorbell could sometimes arm a track to record. Make sure there is no hidden automation or controller data coming in somehow. I'm afraid only those things could cause a setting to change without human intervention.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/07 18:01:33
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It changes randomly though. Not at any specific point. Not at any specific time in the arrangement window. Just randomly whenever it wants. I could leave the track alone for ten minutes, not press anything, not touch anything, then you see the master fader just drop. Nothing else going on. Activity of a poltergeist perhaps?
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/07 19:33:19
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It's doing this randomly on every new project I create. Always master bus. I'm wondering if swapping this around with another bus, it'd do it to that bus instead. The only control linked to fader movement on my controller is my slider. And that's pulled all the way down right now, so if it was that, the fader would hit the floor. This is confusing.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/08 08:59:21
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Try disconnecting ALL midi input. Something similar happened to me once, and it ended up that a dirty key on my Roland synth was putting out little bits of data.....if it stops you at least know the source.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/08 11:15:11
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Hmmm, not sure how I could be sure. This last track hadn't done it at all, but just did it. So I could have to wait hours / days. Thanks for all the advice. How did you deal with this issue of the key on your Roland? And then, how/why was it putting out data?
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/08 11:26:54
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I think I've also noticed, the delay parameter on my Zeta+ 's LFO section randomly returns to halfway also. I think this occurs possibly at the same time as the fader drop. So perhaps my midi controller is randomly shooting out some data??? But even then, does that make sense? Because act controller only controls whatever is currently selected, right? So if neither bus or synth is selected, it shouldn't effect them? Or if so, surely not both?
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/08 14:11:59
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So perhaps my midi controller is randomly shooting out some data??? But even then, does that make sense? Yeam, that makes sence. Chekc your Event List to see what midi is being transmitted from your Roland Cj
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/08 15:32:27
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That's what I was getting at, You have been using controllers and the controllers can easily run a muck. The joy stick on an old Korg poly 4000 I have never stops transmitting. The breeze in the room makes it go I think. Look at the MIDI activity indicator in the tray.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/08 15:58:45
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I've noticed sometime the LED display on my midi controller, which usually stays as whatever it defaults to, sometimes changed to something, for a moment (as I notice a flash from corner of my eye), so always wondering what it's up to. Ha.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/09 20:54:17
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RE: Dirty Roland Key - I had a shop clean them all......Also beware of MOD WHEELS that don't spring back to Zero - like my Kurzweil....if left in any position but ZERO then yeah, the slightest breeze or bump causes it to transmit something...and if you're in REC at that moment things get fouled up and written in.
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Re:Master bus fader randomly dropping to -7.6
2012/06/16 12:37:11
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There's definitely some problematic data trasmission from my controller... I've noticed that on the LED display randomly a number will pop up, usually 68/69/66 as if a control has been pressed etc I noticed when recording midi parts in, (I only tend to use piano keys and mod wheel - which shows up purple/pink in my sonar) sometimes I get random green nodes pop up in the piano roll window, usually about half way up. Not sure what they're controlling or which controller function they are. But I notice them.
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