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2013/05/15 14:40:05 (permalink)

Mastering on your iPad ;)

iMusicAlbum Audio Mastering

Master on your iPad! It has a 10-band graphic equalizer just like the pro's use!

$9.99 at the Apple Store, earbuds not included.





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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 15:08:23 (permalink)
    What speakers are you meant to use as monitors that connect with an iPad?
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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 15:16:05 (permalink)
    Don't iPads have built-in speakers?


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 15:16:35 (permalink)
    You're kidding!!! LOL!!!!
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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 15:18:22 (permalink)
    Yes master!

    or is that

    Yes!  Master!!


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 16:33:34 (permalink)
    I would use Bose earbuds with this app.

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 18:48:21 (permalink)
    Only by mastering on an iPad can you be sure the song will sound right on your iPad!

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/15 22:38:56 (permalink)
    I would use Bose earbuds with this app.

    That would be the "noise-cancelling" model, right? I find that mixing in random sounds 180 degrees out of phase really makes the frequency response organic, warm and musical. And they're pretty expensive, too, which makes them even more appropriate for mastering.


    Then again, Beats by Dr Dre come in red.


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 04:49:07 (permalink)
    Don't forget to attach bass traps on the back of your head, especially if your head is of cubical kind of form. To reduce early reflections a foam sticker on your forehead might be needed as well.

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 08:47:48 (permalink)
    No mastering would be correct though unless you get the top of the line Lazy-Boy. Relaxation is key.

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    2013/05/16 08:49:38 (permalink)

    post edited by mister happy - 2018/02/25 12:54:26


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 09:08:33 (permalink)
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    I would use Bose earbuds with this app.

    That would be the "noise-cancelling" model, right?

    Of course. How else could I master while mowing the lawn?

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 09:09:35 (permalink)
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    No mastering would be correct though unless you get the top of the line Lazy-Boy. Relaxation is key.


    Piffle. I have an iLazy-Boy.

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 10:12:08 (permalink)
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    Now you can master in the plane, the airport, or in a cab... just about anywhere.

    now you can master in the only place where nobody will ever disturb you, and that place acutally comes with ideal acoustics for all that iCrap ...
     

     

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 10:37:06 (permalink)
    Don't forget to attach bass traps on the back of your head, especially if your head is of cubical kind of form. To reduce early reflections a foam sticker on your forehead might be needed as well.

    Great idea. I think we should tip Ethan Winer off to this emerging need, so he can beat Auralex to market with it. Because you just know those guys will make a head treatment that's overpriced and ineffective.


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 10:39:21 (permalink)
    Last night I discovered a thread over on Gearslutz about this product. The vendor actually had the balls to announce it on the Mastering forum there. That will no doubt be an interesting thread to follow.


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 12:58:48 (permalink)
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    Don't forget to attach bass traps on the back of your head, especially if your head is of cubical kind of form. To reduce early reflections a foam sticker on your forehead might be needed as well.

    The FAQ for this app says that duct-taping egg cartons to your head works just as well.

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 14:35:02 (permalink)
     I can see where this would make the pros laugh. I haven't tried this app. so I can't comment. I regularly listen to my iPad with my good cans.The iPad is certainly capable of good audio. 

     I can see the potential for something like this. What is an iPad really? or any other tablet? A simple computer minus the monitor and keyboard and has a touch interface. If software can be written for mastering and the hardware is capable of supporting it, how is that different from mastering on a DAW ITB?

     We may only be a few computer generations away from this ..or it could be happening now.
     


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 15:02:18 (permalink)
    This is the way IK Obi paints iPads and similar devices, as compact but still-powerful computing platforms. He's right, but aside from having powerful CPUs and capable of hosting lots of RAM, that's where the parallels end.

    An iPad is a closed system. There is no add-on hardware that doesn't connect through the single I/O port and isn't subject to that port's limitations. USB is implemented in software and suffers from the high latency you'd expect. Analog to digital conversion is also implemented in software. There is no audio I/O except for the 1/8" jack meant for telephone headsets and earbuds. Disk drives are slow and limited in capacity (anyone seen a 3TB iPad?).

    While such limitations don't preclude many applications, they fall short of what we've come to expect in a DAW. Most of us have multiple terabytes of storage. Most of us have high-speed USB or Firewire interfaces. Most of us use phantom-powered microphones. Most of us are accustomed to multiple audio inputs and outputs, and balanced connections. Most of us prefer large video displays and many have two or more. Most of us use MIDI, at least occasionally, and those who do want 6ms or less latency. Some of us use dedicated hardware DSP processors. Most of us burn CDs from time to time, or back up projects to DVDs. Many of us need separate cue mixes or at least multiple headphone outputs.

    Say goodbye to all of these things in an iPad-does-everything world.


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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 15:27:21 (permalink)
    Now, now, Bit man ... it's not as bleak as you seem to imply.  These iThings aren't meant for professionals or serious hobbyists.  They're for kids (of all ages) and casual "musicians" who are using GarageBand or whatever for fun.  Have you tried GB on the iPad, BTW?  It's pretty slick for just putting together a rough idea for a song.  Certainly worth the five bucks.
     
    Anyway, never fear ... the serious tools that you mention aren't going away anytime soon. 
     
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    2013/05/16 15:44:03 (permalink)

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 16:00:50 (permalink)
    You can do a lot of things on an iPad, but mastering isn't quite there yet. You could technically use a USB interface with the CCK for better ins/outs and conversion.
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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 19:51:38 (permalink)
    it's not as bleak as you seem to imply

    I ain't implying nuttin'. I'm saying straight out that an iPad ain't no frickin' DAW.

    These iThings aren't meant for professionals or serious hobbyists.

    So why do IKM promote them here, and on KVR, Gearslutz and presumably other similar forums? They're pretty proud of the fact that Slash uses iStuff, and his paycheck qualifies him as a "pro". They describe iOS and Android apps as "Tools for the Pro in You" for "producers and engineers". Maybe they are intended as toys for kids, but they sure aren't marketed as such.

    Anyway, never fear ... the serious tools that you mention aren't going away anytime soon.

    Yes, fortunately you're absolutely right about that. I guess what gets my hackles up are the suggestions that anyone who doesn't buy in to the new portable paradigm are clueless troglodytes, luddites or technophobes.



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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/16 20:54:43 (permalink)
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    I ain't implying nuttin'. I'm saying straight out that an iPad ain't no frickin' DAW.
    Maybe not as you and I know them, but many of us are using a laptop quite successfully as a full-fledged DAW.  Tablets aren't that far removed from laptops, are they?  You can even control Sonar X2 via TOUCHING THE SCREEN on the right hardware.  Really, it's not that bad.  See http://www.slateproaudio.com/products/raven/ for an idea of where things might be headed in the pro arena.  Looks like a giant iPad, eh?  :-)

    These iThings aren't meant for professionals or serious hobbyists.
    So why do IKM promote them here, and on KVR, Gearslutz and presumably other similar forums? They're pretty proud of the fact that Slash uses iStuff, and his paycheck qualifies him as a "pro". They describe iOS and Android apps as "Tools for the Pro in You" for "producers and engineers". Maybe they are intended as toys for kids, but they sure aren't marketed as such.
     
    Marketing hype aside, I would be surprised if any major artist or engineer is using these things for commercial releases.   

    Anyway, never fear ... the serious tools that you mention aren't going away anytime soon.

    Yes, fortunately you're absolutely right about that. I guess what gets my hackles up are the suggestions that anyone who doesn't buy in to the new portable paradigm are clueless troglodytes, luddites or technophobes.
    Nah, we're just happy with what we got, which ain't bad.  While the iStuff isn't (yet) up to our standards, those things have their place.  I wouldn't begrudge anyone for wanting to get into that market.  Just as long as our stuff isn't neglected as a result ... hmm, I suspect you might agree with that sentiment.  :-)
     
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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/17 00:48:06 (permalink)
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    [speculation]
    I think the iMakingMusic market is fueled by a hope that, some how, if you are so busy that you can't find any time to practice or work at your music studio, that you may be able to find time to practice or work when are busy doing something else.
    [/speculation]

    Selling *hope* is an old fashioned business. Any Luddite can tell you that. :-)


    Zactly. - I travel a lot and in theory some iStuff could help me sketch out ideas while I am away. I practice I doubt if I would find the time.

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    Re:Mastering on your iPad ;) 2013/05/17 07:12:30 (permalink)
    For the record.  istuff is great for capturing ideas and for sketching out ideas.  It has made a huge difference.  I would also love to have sonar or sonar lite on my iPad so I can do stuff like editing tracks and sketching out midi ideas within songs.  I don't see mastering as an option today unless mastering is simply defined as the act of making a mix louder and wider with no thought towards sonic quality.
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