Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode

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2011/07/25 18:37:53 (permalink)

Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode

Helping a friend get Sonar X1 up and running with an Mbox 2 Mini that used to work with PT 7.4 LE on Vista.  Now he's on a win 7 64-bit machine (i7, 4GB RAM).  Installed X1 in 32 bit mode (with patch) for VST plugin compatibility.  Installed the standalone Mbox 2 mini ASIO drivres from here (8.0.3) and it shows up in Windows devices as it should, as a sound device, but nowhere in X1 as ASIO mode or any other mode for that matter.

Any idea on what I'm doing wrong?

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 00:22:52 (permalink)
    I'm not sure you can install just the 8.03 drivers without PTLE 8.x and have them work properly.  I also have PTLE 7.4 on Vista 32 and once tried the 8.04 drivers but it was a no-go - only the 7.4 drivers that match PTLE itself seemed to work for me.
     

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 12:58:05 (permalink)
    Make sure the onboard sound chip or any other sound card is disabled, as ASIO only supports one card at a time.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 13:58:58 (permalink)
    If I remember correctly, you need driver version 8.04 or later to support x64 Windows.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 14:51:17 (permalink)
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    Make sure the onboard sound chip or any other sound card is disabled, as ASIO only supports one card at a time.

    Is the onboard sound card an ASIO device?  It doesn't show up when ASIO mode is selected, and on my own machine either, I can switch between ASIO and MME to hear either. Thanks!

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 14:52:04 (permalink)
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    If I remember correctly, you need driver version 8.04 or later to support x64 Windows.

    And that's what I installed in this case, but not with PT.  I also tried PT 7.4 with the 7.4 drivers and still no go... I'm stumped.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 14:55:15 (permalink)
    Is the onboard sound card an ASIO device?

    I dont know, is it? Your probably the only one that can answer that question.
     
    Just make sure your onboard card is disabled and then let sonar run the wave profiler. If it doesnt pick it up, then i the drivers you installed are not properly installed and I would re-insall them.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 15:02:52 (permalink)
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    Is the onboard sound card an ASIO device?

    I dont know, is it? Your probably the only one that can answer that question.
     
    Just make sure your onboard card is disabled and then let sonar run the wave profiler. If it doesnt pick it up, then i the drivers you installed are not properly installed and I would re-insall them.

    It is not to the best of my knowledge, but I will disable it, run wave profiler and test.  Thank you.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 16:48:59 (permalink)
    It is not to the best of my knowledge, but I will disable it, run wave profiler and test. Thank you.

     
    Bingo! 
     
    You need to switch driver mode to ASIO.
    If Wave Profiler is running, you're currently set to WDM/KS driver mode.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 16:50:04 (permalink)
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    It is not to the best of my knowledge, but I will disable it, run wave profiler and test. Thank you.

     
    Bingo! 
     
    You need to switch driver mode to ASIO.
    If Wave Profiler is running, you're currently set to WDM/KS driver mode.

    It's definitely set to ASIO, I'd naturally have to change it to WDM/KS to try the Profiler :)

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 17:05:29 (permalink)
    He was going to change it to wdm to just run the wave profiler and then switch it back to ASIO mode after it was done.

    He was going to do this after disabling his onboard sound card.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 17:24:13 (permalink)
    He was going to change it to wdm to just run the wave profiler and then switch it back to ASIO mode after it was done. He was going to do this after disabling his onboard sound card.

     
    Missed that part... 
    Digi just released v8.05... so I'd try installing the drivers from that.
    v8.03 if that's the version the OP used is not compatible with x64 Windows.
    v8.04 still had many issues.

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 17:37:47 (permalink)
    v8.04 still had many issues.

     
    Just 8.04?   
     

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/26 22:12:45 (permalink)
    Just 8.04?

     
    Touche'  

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 17:19:54 (permalink)
    8.03 is installed...

    I disabled the internal sound card, opened up sonar and it still said there were no devices.  Changed to WDM/KS and nothing happened, i.e. the profiler didn't come up.  Is there a way to force it to scan?

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 17:29:50 (permalink)
    You definitely need SONAR set to ASIO in order to see the MBOX because there are no WDM drivers for it, therefore there's nothing to scan in WDM mode. 
     
    Jim mentioned previously that you need the 8.04 drivers for a 64bit OS, but above you stated you have 8.03 installed.   Have you downloaded and/or tried the 8.04 drivers?
     

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 17:39:43 (permalink)
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    You definitely need SONAR set to ASIO in order to see the MBOX because there are no WDM drivers for it, therefore there's nothing to scan in WDM mode. 
     
    Jim mentioned previously that you need the 8.04 drivers for a 64bit OS, but above you stated you have 8.03 installed.   Have you downloaded and/or tried the 8.04 drivers?
     

    Could not find 8.04 drivers, but found 8.05... will test those.


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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 17:42:11 (permalink)
    Sry I lied, that was a PT 8.05 update... looking for newer than 8.03...

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 17:54:36 (permalink)
    Even with the 8.03 drivers, the Mbox 2  Mini does not show as a sound device in Windows Control Panel (Control Panel\Hardware and Sound) even though it is in the Device List (Computer\Device Manager)... my guess is that that's a first hurdle to jump over.  

    If anyone has the 8.04 or higher ASIO drivers from Avid in a link form I'd be greatful for it.  Right now, all I've found is http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=355067


    Also, Sonar is installed in 32 bit mode on a 64 bit machine, which is same as I have on my own laptop, works no probs.
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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 18:22:28 (permalink)
    Yeah, I believe they were beta drivers only,  so who knows how they may or may not behave.   The 8.04 drivers must be somewhere on the Avid site, but your guess is as good as mine.  Finding downloads is difficult at best unless they're already in your account.   And if you have PTLE 7.4, it's doubtful that drivers for a newer version would be there.  Beautiful. 
     
    But perhaps someone else may be able to point you in the right direction...

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    Re:Mbox 2 Mini not showing in ASIO mode 2011/07/27 19:41:33 (permalink)
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    Yeah, I believe they were beta drivers only,  so who knows how they may or may not behave.   The 8.04 drivers must be somewhere on the Avid site, but your guess is as good as mine.  Finding downloads is difficult at best unless they're already in your account.   And if you have PTLE 7.4, it's doubtful that drivers for a newer version would be there.  Beautiful. 
     
    But perhaps someone else may be able to point you in the right direction...

    Agreed, it's a nightmare trying to find the simplest of things on their KB...

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