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Melda Plugs for the next 4 days...

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/17 07:37:43 (permalink)
     
    Thanks Larry.
     
    Auto Align interests me... although I usually just program my nudge settings for what ever drum kits I am working with in a project and have a semi automated way to deal with drum kit alignment using hot keys.
     
    What's the final price of Auto Align?
     
    I got a chance to read the pdf manual but I don't see the 2 DAWs that I use the most mentioned in the instructions: SONAR 8.5 and PT11.
     
    I'm wondering if the need for side chaining presents any specific limitations to some hosts.


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/17 12:27:07 (permalink)
    You can demo it unrestricted for 14 days, although a couple hours will probably tell you if it's going to work for you. I haven't used that plugin myself, but I've never had issues sidechaining any Melda plugs within SONAR 8.5. I do that a lot, too.


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/17 13:51:09 (permalink)
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    Thanks Larry.
     
    Auto Align interests me... although I usually just program my nudge settings for what ever drum kits I am working with in a project and have a semi automated way to deal with drum kit alignment using hot keys.
     
    What's the final price of Auto Align?
     
    I got a chance to read the pdf manual but I don't see the 2 DAWs that I use the most mentioned in the instructions: SONAR 8.5 and PT11.
     
    I'm wondering if the need for side chaining presents any specific limitations to some hosts.



    I just picked up Auto Align and it ended up being around $32.
     
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/17 19:57:05 (permalink)
    Thanks guys.
     
    I may give it a try.


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/21 07:58:19 (permalink)

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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/21 10:34:16 (permalink)
    My choice out of those selections would be the compressor. At a hundred bucks it's still pricier than your average comp, but the only other compressors I know of that are comparably versatile are Blue Cat's Dynamics ($160) and DMG Audio's Compassion ($256). It even beats out Pro-C on features ($200).


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/21 10:46:11 (permalink)
    I was fooling around with some of the mfreebundle plugs last night.
    These are some really good plugs that should not be overlooked. They are worth the asking price.

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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/24 22:36:00 (permalink)
    Ummm, Spectral Dynamics just became one of the 50% off plugs... So tempted.........
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/24 22:54:27 (permalink)
    Hear that little voice whispering in your ear? Saying do it, do it, do it.
     
    Seriously, do it.


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/24 23:42:47 (permalink)
    DO IT!!!


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 08:20:25 (permalink)
    MSpectralDynamics makes the cut...


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    post edited by cclarry - 2014/07/25 11:24:30


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 11:27:10 (permalink)
    ORDERED! 
     
    Now, I'm expecting to be BLOWN AWAY! 
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 11:30:54 (permalink)
    This forum software needs help....IJS...


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 11:40:14 (permalink)
    Yes it does. I would like to change my avatar but that feature has been broken for me for weeks.
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 16:41:28 (permalink)
    Here's my MSpectralDynamics story...
     
    I got hold of MSpectralDynamics by accident. When Melda first added GPU acceleration to the product line, it was incompatible with my ancient video card. I whined to Vojtech about it and he sent me a debug build to help him troubleshoot the problem. The plugin he sent me for testing happened to be MSpectralDynamics. After a few tries, he got the GPU acceleration working flawlessly. I thanked him for his perseverance (he could have just told me to update my card and get lost - many other vendors would have). He in turn thanked me for my contribution with a very kind gesture, basically said "keep the plugin" for your trouble.
     
    Now, prior to this the plugin had been neither on my wishlist nor on my radar. I'd seen it and it looked interesting but I really didn't know what it'd be good for. But in the process of testing it, an amazing thing happened: I had my mind seriously blown. This thing was frickin' amazing. 
     
    After scraping my brains from the desk and my socks from the floor, I dug into the plugin to see what the deal was. I PM'd a few of my compulsive plugin collector friends, asking them if they had it. None of them did. Not even yorolpal. It seemed to be a well-kept secret.
     
    I'll admit that at this point it crossed my mind to keep it a secret. Hey, why not let people think I'm a better mixer than I am, and keep the discovery to myself?
     
    But nah, I'm too much of a blabbermouth. So I've been working on an in-depth tutorial/review for about two months now, intended for publication in September's SoundBytes. It's been a long process because every time I figure out something new it can do, I have to revise the piece. And that's been happening about once a week. It happened again just this morning.
     
    MSpectralDynamics is now in every new project. My current project contains no less than three instances: one on the vocal bus for leveling, one on the instrument bus for ducking against the vocal, and one on the master for general silky goodness, in front of Ozone. The GPU acceleration makes it practical to have multiple instances, as it greatly reduces CPU overhead on my stressed dinosaur of a computer.
     
    So trust me that when I join cclarry in saying "do it", I ain't just whistling Dixie. Be prepared for a little study and experimentation, because it's not like anything you currently have in your toolkit. But once you get the hang of it, oh my.
     
     
     


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 17:06:40 (permalink)
    Thanks Bit!
    I am using MDynamicEQ for ducking my bass from the kick, but as I reported before the plugin is resetting on me. Is this plugin going to be a better alternative for that?
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/25 17:50:20 (permalink)
    I'm revisiting MSpectralDynamics now (in demo form), and I'm reminded that I like what it does, but I'm getting artifacts on initial transients, for example at the beginning of a track that starts out with a snare hit or something similar.  Is there an easy way to fix that?   I had the same kind of issue with MTransient. 
     
    Bit man, would you be able to suggest a starting point for use on a full mix?  I've tried a few of the presets and getting interesting results by adjusting the threshold and such, but I suspect I may be missing something.
     
    I remember when I first demoed this a while back that it seemed similar in concept to Dynamic Spectrum Mapper.  Fair comparison?
     
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/26 15:12:34 (permalink)
    It's very sensitive to being overdriven and will distort badly when it happens. Lacking a peak indicator to alert you, you have to watch the waveform display closely for flat-topping. It's usually not a problem on tracks, but on the master, placed before the limiter, it's a greater possibility. I find that I get better results if I turn the Input fader down 6 or 8 dB and compensate with makeup gain.
     
    This is my default starting point for full mixes:
     
    Resolution: 15ms
    Smoothness and Naturality: 0% (1% or 2% on other types of busses)
    Slope: 4.5 dB (may end up anywhere from 3 dB to 5 dB but 4.5 is a good starting point)
    Dry/wet: 100% (the last step is to back this off to 70-80%)
    Attack: 10ms (may end up anywhere from 1ms to 40ms, depending on the song)
    Release:40ms (may end up anywhere from 10ms to 100ms, longer for vox busses)
    RMS Length: 1ms (just needs to be less than attack time)
    Lookahead: off (turn on only if you have big percussive peaks)
    Release mode: manual (auto works OK, but might boost reverb tails too much)
    Threshold: -80 dB (I often customize the threshold curve, though)
    Ratio: 1.2 (usually don't go above 1.3:1)
    Knee: 100% (best for master busses - smoothest transition)
    Range: 96 dB (full range)
     
    Yes, DSM would be its closest (AFAIK its only) competitor. 


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/26 15:17:53 (permalink)
    Hey bit,
     
    I believe you are an Ozone fan as well. How do you fit Spectral Dynamics into your mastering process when using Ozone?
     
    PS: Thanks for sharing your settings - I intend to try them this weekend!
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/26 18:08:44 (permalink)
    My default project template's chain is Pro-Q -> Ozone -> SPAN, but it doesn't always stay that way. 
     
    I'll customize my mastering chain depending on the song, so no two projects are alike. Ozone will be in there maybe 60% of the time, although I may substitute Pro-L for limiting and Saturn for its harmonic exciter. I almost never use Ozone's EQ anymore, and the stereo widener only rarely.
     
    Nowadays MSpectralDynamics will almost always be in there somewhere, but not necessarily on the master bus. Taking a look at my current project, I see I have only Pro-L on the master, just to catch stray peaks. All the action is happening on individual busses:
        instrument bus: Pro-Q -> Saturn -> MSpectralDynamics -> Ozone
        vocal bus: MDynamicEQ -> Pro-C
            (why both? Pro-C is just for de-essing)
        drum bus: Pro-L -> instruments bus 
        master: Pro-L, no boost, only sporadic compression on a few loud drum hits
     
    It may seem strange to have two instances of Pro-L in series, but they're doing two different jobs. The one on the master isn't doing much at all, it's just my goalie.
     
    Yesterday's project was quite different:
        instrument bus: Pro-Q -> MSpectralDynamics (used for ducking, not EQ)
        vocal bus: naked
        drum bus: naked
        master: MSpectralDynamics -> Ozone
     
     
    Pulled up one from three days ago, it's different, too:
        instruments: Pro-Q -> Pro-C -> Ozone -> MSpectralDynamics -> MDynamicEQ
             (Why two equalizers? MDynamicEQ is not used for EQ, but for ducking)
             (Why Pro-C and MSD? The first is for M/S widening, MSD is for spectral smoothing)
        vocals: Pro-C -> MDynamicEQ
        drums: Pro-Q
        master: MCompressor -> Pro-L
     
    I sometimes wonder why I can't be more consistent. It would simplify things. But no two songs are alike.


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 13:39:39 (permalink)
    Bit,
     
    So are you using Ozone on individual busses, not just the mastering bus? very interesting!
     
    i'm playing with your mastering starting point now. I have always used Ozone, but I created a new chain last night that looked like this:
     
    1. MSpectralDynamics
    2. Waves LinMB Stereo. I did this based on the videos Mastering in the Box on Groove 3. Maybe unnecessary with the MSD in front of it, but it seems to make a positive impact.
    3. Ozone 5 (for Exciter Going to try Ozone 4 today based on your previous comments)
    4. Ozone 5 (for stereo imaging - same instances as above just putting separate in this list)
    5. Slate Digital FG-X for limiting
    I used a trick I just learned up stairs for A/Bing FX Chains and I really like this chain better than the settings I was using in Ozone 5! First time I've manually mastered and gotten better results that tweaking presets in Ozone - feeling pretty stoked. :)
     
    Off to play with this a bit more and to try on some other tracks. I will say I have a fast computer, and I don't know if it's MSD or something else, but I've had to really increase my latency and if I turn effects on and off a lot things get out of sync and I have to stop (space bar) and restart audio to get going again...
     
     
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 14:26:16 (permalink)
    Bit man, thanks for posting all those tips ... I've been playing with MSD more, and while it's certainly a useful plugin, I haven't yet found something that it does that I can't already do with multi-band comps, dynamic EQs, and other such tools.   I just haven't found that "killer app" for it yet.  But I look forward to your in-depth analysis, which I'm sure will be a very good read.
     
    BTW, that issue I had with artifacts seems to have been caused by the AGC function.  Turning it off solved it. 
     
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 14:34:12 (permalink)
    smallstonefan
    Yes it does. I would like to change my avatar but that feature has been broken for me for weeks.



    Same here SS, and they don't really seem to care if they fix it or not...
    I know they are completely aware of it...but haven't fixed it...so...

    Oh well...it is what it is...


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 15:33:12 (permalink)
    I'm going to have to check out this spectral dynamics.  Do the bundles ever come on sale?


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 15:36:06 (permalink)
    Several of the bundles went on sale this month @ 50% off. Historically, there have been 50% off bundles sales near year end.
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 15:40:59 (permalink)
    I've been to the Site at least 5 times today and I haven't seen any Bundles on sale...

    Where are you seeing these at?

    http://www.meldaproduction.com/download.php


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 15:43:06 (permalink)
    Like all the sales this month, bundles were only on sale for a few days. There are no bundles on sale today.
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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 15:45:50 (permalink)
    scook
    Like all the sales this month, bundles were only on sale for a few days. There are no bundles on sale today.



    Derh...my bad...sorry...I read your post as "this morning"....sorry scook! 
    post edited by cclarry - 2014/07/27 18:05:05


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    Re: Melda Plugs for the next 4 days... 2014/07/27 16:49:53 (permalink)
    Ok, I'm definitly going to keep these on my watch list then


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