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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/12 20:47:26
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cool. Im a sucker for the mellotron. this looks a little like some free SF's I found once, tho this is more complete. Thanks, @
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/13 00:56:36
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TB - sfz for Mellotron Samples (individual samples) - for use with the 175 individual sample downloads listed at the Leisureland USA link --No longer available for download-- TB - sfz for Mellotron Samples Update (zipped samples) - for use with the 8 compiled .zip downloads (plus the Gong sample) listed at the Leisureland USA link These files will work in Rapture or Rapture LE, Dimension Pro or Dimension LE. Untested in the original Dimension (Project5). Extract this .zip file to the Multisamples folder of your preferred synth. A folder called Mellotron Samples will be created. The .sfz files are under Mellotron Samples, as are five sub-folders for the sample files. Move or download the samples from the Leisureland USA link to the appropriate folder of the same name. Use the Load Multisample dialog to load the Mellotron mappings. Up to four 'tape racks' in Dimension Pro / LE; 6 in Rapture / LE. There's an 8-second Amp EG & polyphony limits embedded in each file. You can override those settings in the upgraded versions. Enable a LP1 filter in any of these synths as an overall 'tone control'. You're on your own for the 'tape' wow & flutter. **************** Edit Update: Since the date of this original post, composite .zip files have been added to the link with a different file name convention. Select the correct set of .sfz files to match your method of downloading. Edit Update 2: Since the date of this original post, the individual sample files have been removed from the source link. ****************
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/13 01:50:36
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b rock it is so good of you to share your time and expertise thank you
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/13 04:39:15
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Wow! Thanks Fac & b rock !!!
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/13 05:39:33
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dunno if this is use to others, I use it a lot though http://www.httrack.com/ so you don't have to spend ages clicking links for the individual audio files, been using it for years. along with freedownloadmanager (.org) I'm sure there's other ways of doing the same thing, but that's what I use anyway as it keeps the folders.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/13 08:32:22
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ORIGINAL: b rock TB - sfz for Mellotron Samples Thanks, Tom! I knew someone would come up with the sfz's. I haven't had the chance to download the samples myself, but I will. Even though I own M-Tron, it would be interesting to run those sounds through the Dimension Pro / Rapture LE engines.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/13 16:35:21
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I did, and I love the 8 second or so cut-off. I've started layering my own Mellotron Programs - in one I loaded the tb - mkii combined brass.sfz into 2 elements and shifted E2 down -12 for a real scary Fiday the 13th type sound...:) First, I reset: eg15_time2=4 eg15_level2=1 eg15_time3=.005 eg15_level3=0 to balance out the cutoffs and saved it as TB - MkII Combined Brass shifted.sfz, and then loaded it in as the second element before I shifted it down -12 - hope I explained that right...
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 08:23:44
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- hope I explained that right... You did. Good to hear from the 'college crowd', MDK. When you start constructing multiple Element .progs, keep in mind that I boosted the sample levels in each .sfz file. Make adjustments to compensate for added Elements, either in the 'volume=5' opcode [dB], or using the Element's Vol controls in the Mixer.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 12:59:36
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Looks good. I followed all the steps, but I got stuck at 'Load Multisample'. Where can you do that? thanks Jan
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 13:40:29
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You're in an amazing state. So stay there.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 14:12:08
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Ok, found that, but now I get error messages that about half of the samples can't be found or loaded (though they're all in the same folder), and strange glide fx. I'm using DLE Any idea what that can be? Jan
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 15:01:55
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I get error messages that about half of the samples can't be found or loaded (though they're all in the same folder) Check to see that there are 35 samples in each of the following five folders: - Combined Choir (8-Voice Choir + Boy's Choir) - GC3 Brass - MkII 3 Violins - MkII Combined Brass - String Section The 'Mellotron Samples' folder will have 180 files: 175 samples divided into five sub-folders, plus 5 .sfz files. Take care to place the right 'instrument' into its respective folder. Each of the five 'instruments' have identical file naming conventions for their individual samples. and strange glide fx There's nothing in the .sfz mappings that would cause that. Some of the Mellotron samples exhibit pitch drifts at the very end of the tape spool. There's minor glitching in the 'attack' portion of most notes as well. The 'body' of many samples don't strictly align to A440 tuning. That's all part of the charm. - Edited for clarity.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 18:42:40
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...now I get error messages that about half of the samples can't be found or loaded ... Some of the wav files are referred to under the wrong names in two of the sfz files, e.g. Gb3 instead of F#3. To correct this, either edit the sfz text or rename the wavs.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/14 18:56:05
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Some of the wav files are referred to under the wrong names in two of the sfz files, e.g. Gb3 instead of F#3. If you can point out exactly where that is, I'd be glad to do the corrections. I'm not seeing those conditions anywhere in these files. Edit: Now I see what's happened. When this thread began, the composite .zip files were not on the site. Since then, the author has compiled the samples into instrument groups, and has changed the file names in the process. The .sfz files work as written for the original (individual) sample downloads.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/15 03:30:06
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Ok, thanks. I love Mellotron. Time to relearn Starless :D Jan
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/15 04:18:41
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Some of the wav files are referred to under the wrong names in two of the sfz files, e.g. Gb3 instead of F#3. If you can point out exactly where that is, I'd be glad to do the corrections. I'm not seeing those conditions anywhere in these files... Now I see what's happened. When this thread began, the composite .zip files were not on the site. Since then, the author has compiled the samples into instrument groups, and has changed the file names in the process. The .sfz files work as written for the original (individual) sample downloads.
For the people who downloaded the later version, the unmatched sample files can be identified in the error message displayed in DimPro. The convention of using sharps rather than flats except for Bb has been adopted in the naming of the wav files in the Violins and Combined Brass samples. For the other three sets of wavs (and presumably for all the samples provided in the original download), flats rather than sharps are used throughout.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/15 08:16:48
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/15 12:30:18
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Thanks for all of your work, b rock. It's interesting just to listen to the sounds.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/15 23:19:11
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I love the old mellotron sounds. They were used by everyone in the 60's - 70's including Bowie, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and King Crimson.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/17 09:18:00
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Ignore - needs to be in a folder called Mellotron samples - I think this can be fixed by amending the path in the sfz though, which would make things much more portable? <control> default_path=.\Combined Choir (8-Voice Choir + Boy's Choir)\
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/06/20 08:26:27
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needs to be in a folder called Mellotron samples - I think this can be fixed by amending the path in the sfz though, which would make things much more portable? Editing the .sfz files is a great way to make them portable, or customize them for your own usage. I don't think that "fixed" would be the right term here, though. I wrote them this way intentionally for several reasons: Compatibility - If the instructions are followed, everyone has the exact same file locations, regardless of system. Accessibility - All the Mellotron Sounds are gathered in one place, instead of scattered throughout the Multisamples folder. Separation - There's reasonable assurance that identically named samples aren't overwritten by another instrument set. Expandability - With at least four more Mellotron sets in the works, the files under this structure can be updated easily.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/07/07 00:02:03
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big up to fac and b rock! B rock your consistantly generous and good-willed approach to newbies and everybody else on these forums leaves me in awe! (and puts others to shame.) you got karma man! thanks again
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/07/30 21:26:52
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ORIGINAL: fac I found this site with some full-length Mellotron multi-samples: http://www.leisureland.us/audio/MellotronSamples/MellotronSamples.htm It should be quite easy to make the corresponding .sfz files for Dimension Pro and Rapture (if anyone does, please share them with the rest ). Thanks for this, I am a big mellotron fan. The Yes album Topographic Oceans is almost all mellotron hehe Well not quite "all", but it's great how it is used on those older records. Even on some new stuff here and there
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/07/30 21:33:45
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ORIGINAL: b rock For the people who downloaded the later version I've added another set of .sfz files, and edited my original reply above to reflect the new developments. For the newer files (mixed sharps & flats used): TB - sfz for Mellotron Samples (zipped samples) - for use with the 5 compiled .zip downloads listed at the Leisureland USA link The original files (all flats used): TB - sfz for Mellotron Samples (individual samples) - for use with the 175 individual sample downloads listed at the Leisureland USA link Thanks for setting these up with the sfz files, very cool! I downloaded all the samples and the files you made, but have yet to test it out with Dimension LE or Sfz in Sonar.
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/08/25 14:35:52
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/09/03 23:11:15
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ORIGINAL: Jan Geerts Looks good. I followed all the steps, but I got stuck at 'Load Multisample'. Where can you do that? thanks Jan I found that I had to change the folder names to get the .sfz files to come up. Fortunately, Dropzone put out a message in the form of a text file describing exactly where it was looking for the samples, so easy to set up the right folder structures. Regards, lightninrick
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/09/07 12:04:48
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I found that I had to change the folder names to get the .sfz files to come up. I made some corrections. Evidently, I uploaded my test platform instead of the finals, while attempting to keep up with the file name changes at the source site ( Leisureland USA). Additionally, the 175 individual sample downloads have now been removed from that site. The original installation instructions above should now work again. Understand that I'm at the mercy of any changes that the sample provider decides to implement. I've added the newest three sets of Mellotron Sounds (M300A, M300B, and Woodwinds 2) to the .sfz pack. Some of these samples aren't the greatest quality ( see KVR Forum topic here). I also tossed in a mapping of the single Gong sample provided by 'taijiguy'. It didn't make much sense to map that across all 35 keys. I 'centered' it at middle C, and allowed the notes above & below that to exhibit an interesting pitch shift. The Gong will cut off, Mellotron-style, upon key release. If you'd like the samples to sustain, gong-like, add a variable amount of mod wheel just prior to triggering the keys on your controller. It will hold off the sample release by up to 15 seconds. TB - sfz for Mellotron Samples Update (zipped samples)
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/09/07 13:04:14
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ORIGINAL: b rock I also tossed in a mapping of the single Gong sample provided by 'taijiguy'. Thanks for sharing! There's some good sonic mileage to get out of that Gong sample. Especially when used with Dimension/Rapture FX. Try: Insert FX | Symphonic | Feedback 100% | LFO Freq 0.1 | LFO Depth 5.3%
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RE: Mellotron samples here
2008/09/07 13:17:10
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Some of these samples aren't the greatest quality... There appears to be some clipping on most of the M300A samples.
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