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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 16, 16 5:17 PM
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Melodyne 4 Studio does not "require" iLok. I'm running it on two computers without any iLok dongle
That was my understanding also, that you have a choice. If I license on one computer without an iLok, and then decide to buy an iLok later, is it easy to move the license to the iLok so I can use the software on multiple machines?
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 16, 16 5:40 PM
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That was my understanding also, that you have a choice. If I license on one computer without an iLok, and then decide to buy an iLok later, is it easy to move the license to the iLok so I can use the software on multiple machines?
There is a choice in your account to move the license to an Ilok. Once you move it to Ilok you can't move it back.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 16, 16 5:42 PM
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cparmerlee
That was my understanding also, that you have a choice. If I license on one computer without an iLok, and then decide to buy an iLok later, is it easy to move the license to the iLok so I can use the software on multiple machines?
There is a choice in your account to move the license to an Ilok. Once you move it to Ilok you can't move it back.
Thanks. You are talking about the Celemony account? On edit -- I now see that in my Celemony account. If you launch the stand-alone Melodyne and go to the Help-License (I think that's the one) menu, the option is there.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 16, 16 7:53 PM
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 16, 16 7:58 PM
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Do you know if you can import the tempo map that Melodyne 4 can create into the Sonar tempo map? Like Studio One can?:
I'd like to know this too
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 16, 16 8:26 PM
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Fabio - you gotta fix the quotes and /quotes 
I agree with Fabio though. It will work fine (I was in the exact same situation) - the Editor 2 license is a "real" license, and will upgrade fine. It works fine in SONAR - just don't install the "Essentials 4" when that gets bundled. This is no different than not letting SONAR touch your Editor 2 version - like you do now.
3) How will I ever figure out how to use this stuff? Those Celemony guys are freaking geniuses.
That is the $99,000 question ;-)
I, for one, won't be figuring it out for a while...
jbraner, I had Essentials 2 installed along side of Editor 2. Now it's Studio 4 and of course Essentials 2. Why do you advise not installing Essentials 4 when it comes out? - quote usage ok? lol
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 17, 16 7:00 AM
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Hi Fabio, I didn't know it was possible to have two version installed side by side. For me, the Editor ver 2 overwrote the Essentials ver 2 (Cakewalk version) - and now this time the Studio ver 4 overwrote the Editor ver 2. also - I'm using the ilok version - so there was no question about it - you surrender the ver 2 license and replace it with the ver 4 one. So - I wasn't really advising. For me I didn't have any choice in the matter
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 17, 16 8:52 AM
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Do you know if you can import the tempo map that Melodyne 4 can create into the Sonar tempo map? Like Studio One can?:
I'd like to know this too
I just upgraded to the studio version, the tempo detection worked fine recording my acoustic guitar. You can export the tempo map as a midi file which you would then just load the midi file first into Sonar to create the tempo map. (You have to do this is the stand alone version of Melodyne ). Brian
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 17, 16 8:55 AM
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That sounds like a reasonable workaround, but it would be even more brilliant if it could all be done internally with Studio running as a plugin. Hmm. I'm going to install the demo and play around a bit...
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 17, 16 4:51 PM
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subtlearts
That sounds like a reasonable workaround, but it would be even more brilliant if it could all be done internally with Studio running as a plugin. Hmm. I'm going to install the demo and play around a bit...
+1 to that. However in plugin mode it uses the host tempo and there is no controls to change the tempo in the plugin. That would be a nice feature request though. Brian
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 6:19 AM
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I still have not heard back from Celemony about getting my trial functional, but in searching for other info I found that Celemony's forum was abolished with the release of Melodyne 4 (I read into such differently than what is claimed on that page). Has anyone come across a FAQ page from Celemony for the points in this thread?
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 6:48 AM
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mettelus
I still have not heard back from Celemony about getting my trial functional, but in searching for other info I found that Celemony's forum was abolished with the release of Melodyne 4 (I read into such differently than what is claimed on that page). Has anyone come across a FAQ page from Celemony for the points in this thread?
I copied this from my manual: The tempo functions are only relevant in the stand-alone implementation of Melodyne and only found there. The plug-in implementation takes its tempo information from the DAW and is therefore tied to its tempo progressions. To share with your DAW the fruits of Melodyne’s tempo detection, you can export a MIDI file from the stand-alone implementation containing the tempo progressions detected by Melodyne and import it into the DAW as a tempo map. Brian
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 7:00 AM
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That seems reasonable enough, and functional. What, if anything, does Studio One do that provides greater functionality than that? Just out of interest...
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 8:58 AM
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☄ Helpfulby cparmerlee January 19, 16 9:20 AM
subtlearts
That seems reasonable enough, and functional. What, if anything, does Studio One do that provides greater functionality than that? Just out of interest...
In Studio One it is a whole different story. Check out the video from a studio one user https://forums.presonus.c...pic.php?p=83426#p83426I made a correction, Melodynes tempo detection works in Studio One version 2 as well as version 3.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 1:30 PM
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Did Studio One v3 release a patch when Melodyne 4 hit the streets? I am dismayed that bringing tempo data into SONAR (from a plugin) wasn't the first reaction to this "new information."
As many projects require the mating of audio/MIDI data, the number one thorn in my side has been the tempo map. Even when Drum Replacer hit the streets, my first reaction was to "audio microscope" AudioSnap (essentially what Melodyne 4 is doing), yet that comment seemed to spin off into oblivion. Now a plugin can do it, but there remains no "on the fly" mating of that plugin. As Melodyne 4 seems to have elegant methods to adjust this "at will," it may be time to consider making SONAR slave to a plugin for tempo mapping - the utter segregation of MIDI vs. audio in SONAR can finally be "abolished" and made significantly less painful than it is today.
AudioSnap "could" have beaten Melodyne to the punch here, but has never ventured down the path of "audio microscope" although Drum Replacer did (saving users forced micromanagement of the pool), or an elegant graphical solution for adjustment.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 1:43 PM
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What is the latest on this? I never used melodyne for tempo detection. I just wanted meloydyne to match my current snap or tempo when I opened it? is there a workflow I don't understand that requires the analysis of melodyne audio to dictate the tempo of the parent project??
If melodyne 4 opens with the current snap or "granularity" of my session...whats the problem? my current melodyne editor 2 gets randomly messed up and does not follow the granularity of the current session. So if I am 1/8 I still have to fart with melodyne and set the X and Y to a useable scale then make sure that one setting is 1/8 inside the melodyne plugin.
Smooth snap or edit granularity back and forth and back again would be great. I have not upgraded yet, but I have always had to "set" the tempo in melodyne before. Just FYI
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 7:08 PM
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subtlearts
That sounds like a reasonable workaround, but it would be even more brilliant if it could all be done internally with Studio running as a plugin. Hmm. I'm going to install the demo and play around a bit...
We have plans of improving this part of the ARA integration in a future release. It shouldn't be very difficult.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 7:18 PM
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subtlearts
That sounds like a reasonable workaround, but it would be even more brilliant if it could all be done internally with Studio running as a plugin. Hmm. I'm going to install the demo and play around a bit...
We have plans of improving this part of the ARA integration in a future release. It shouldn't be very difficult.
Well that's a happy bit of news...
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 7:39 PM
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
subtlearts
That sounds like a reasonable workaround, but it would be even more brilliant if it could all be done internally with Studio running as a plugin. Hmm. I'm going to install the demo and play around a bit...
We have plans of improving this part of the ARA integration in a future release. It shouldn't be very difficult.
Yes thankyou Noel. While it is possible to save the detected tempo to a MIDI file from the plugin, we need a way to save the tempo map into the current project without having to create a new project from a MIDI file.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 7:44 PM
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
We have plans of improving this part of the ARA integration in a future release. It shouldn't be very difficult.
Noel, that is just the news I have been hoping for! :) The day this comes out is the day I will finally feel I can begin recording the versions of my own songs that I have always longed to be able to record - first, the most important main vocal and playing (simultaneously) track, recorded with no click so that the performance can be as heartfelt and spontaneous as possible. Then, adding the other instruments and voices, using the tempo map to make everything nice and tight. And all from within Sonar, so that very little time is spent "engineering" (I have to use this word in very large mocking quotation marks in my case :)) and the great majority of the time is spent concentrating on coming up with the best performance I can dredge up. All this to say, I can't wait. Thanks again! LJ
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 8:14 PM
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Can I just confirm what the process will be regarding Melodyne 4 Essentials update from the up-and-coming Manchester update.
I've just upgraded to Melodyne Studio 4, which is working fine. I haven't tried the Essentials. Should I go ahead and also do the Essentials 4 update when available? Or is there no point doing this since I have now have Studio 4. Is there a risk it may overwrite something? Or will both be available?
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 19, 16 9:34 PM
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound January 20, 16 8:57 AM
No need to update since you already have the highest version. I believe the essentials installer handles this but its best not to update.
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Re: Melodyne 2 and 4 coexisting in Sonar?
January 20, 16 5:06 PM
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