Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI (realtime control a synth)

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2017/12/03 15:51:17 (permalink)

Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI (realtime control a synth)

Looking for best technique Using SONAR + Melodyne 4 to convert monophonic vocal line to MIDI.
Anyone have any luck using a Kazoo?
 

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    Zargg
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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/03 15:54:13 (permalink)
    Hi. Just drag the audio to a MIDI track.
    Haven't tried with a Kazoo.
    All the best.

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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/03 16:12:55 (permalink)
    Singing a simple audio line, then converting to MIDI is still very inaccurate conversion. I'm trying to find ways to get the vocal audio as simple as possible. (humming, kazoo, etc.)

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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/03 20:17:45 (permalink)
    Are you still using Melodyne v2 that came with Sonar? You should be able to upgrade to Essentials v4 for free - the audio to MIDI conversion is MUCH better. I even had some success with polyphonic conversion (which it really shouldn't do).
     
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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/03 20:18:55 (permalink)
    doh - just re-read the title! You are using v4.
     
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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/04 05:34:13 (permalink)
    msmcleod
    Are you still using Melodyne v2 that came with Sonar? You should be able to upgrade to Essentials v4 for free - the audio to MIDI conversion is MUCH better. I even had some success with polyphonic conversion (which it really shouldn't do).
     


    Does this actually work in Essential? I was looking at the version comparisons yesterday and it showed audio to MIDI was not included in Essential.
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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/04 10:28:08 (permalink)
    I don't think essential does audio to MIDI as standard, maybe its the ARA integration that allows it to do more... but it certainly works.
     
    I ended up upgrading to Melodyne Editor in the end, which gives better results and allows me to do the same level of pitch/time correction that you can with MIDI tracks. It has saved me SO much time with "picking" guitar takes, as tweaking a single out of tune note is a breeze.
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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/04 16:04:08 (permalink)
    So after some testing...
    Goal: convert Simple voice line to MIDI.
    NONE of the melodyne
    algorithms match the audio.
    The exception is:
    Region FX> Melodyne> Copy MIDI Events = closet match

    • Percussion> export MIDI = fail
    • Melodic> export MIDI = fail
    • Poly Decay> export MIDI = fail
    • Poly Sustain> export MIDI = fail
    There must be a way to record in a vocal pattern that helps melodyne get a simple voice to MIDI.
    Hum, LaLaLa, EIEIOh WTF?
    I'm out of ideas.
     

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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/04 16:33:27 (permalink)
    Melodic should work but you may need to do a pitch adjustment to lock notes to scale (like 100%). Melodyne doesn't do well with pitch bends, so it will chop notes up when it sees enough drift (one note can become many).

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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/04 16:44:34 (permalink)
    You would have better luck cleaning it up a little bit before the conversion takes place.


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    Re: Melodyne 4 Vocal to MIDI 2017/12/04 18:18:35 (permalink)
    "better luck cleaning it up" good vid thanks!
    I'm trying to avoid converting all melodies to piano just to get MIDI.
    wonder if throwing on a autotune would help. It seems like voice is to unstable.
    Timing and pitch.
     

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