Melodyne 4 .......why did I do it? [SOLVED]

 
Having decided a while back that the upgrade from Editor 2 to Editor 4 didn't really seem worth the bother for some reason (it became very cheap) I gave in.
 
I'd seen some threads where there were issues in the bandlab version, but still being a platinum user (2017.10) I thought I would be safe enough.
 
Reallllly wish I hadn't now. Seems very buggy.
 
Every instance opens as a straight line and I have to manually re do the algorithm for melodic (even though I have set this as the default option). The clip background is plain white and not how it used to be (with note indicator stripes) which is how it still looks on their website and as for dragging audio to midi - complete crashfest.
 
The clip background is the same in Studio One 3 so is this just how it is now? 
 
Is it just me? Is the bandlab version the same?
 
 

Thanks for the suggestion and confirming that I'm not going mad - ever since v-vocal I've been in the habit of only selecting small clips because anyone who used it knew how it went when you didn't.  I hope this gets fixed soon.

Same behavior here Paulo.
 
Not in Studio One though. :-)

Happens to me as well. My workaround is to close melodyne, press ctrl-z and then make a slightly different selection before engaging Melodyne again.
That second time, it draws correctly.

Funny, mine behaves exactly the same way, and the discrepancy with the time cursor made it unusable, so I reinstalled the previous version. I also sent Celemony several projects that had time issues. Their response was that my files worked flawlessly in their environment... I call BS... I also run the full Studio version, and that's a lot of scratch to spend for a buggy product that's been a problem since September... I'm not real thrilled with Celemony right about now...
 

BRainbow
Me too.  Always have to manually select melodic or polyphonic to get it to do more than show a straight line (which is probably the percussive algorithm loading by default).  Frustrating, but it only take a couple seconds to remedy and everything else (except the time cursor not visually jibing with what's showing in the CW track view window).  They know about it and should fix it - not sure why they haven't done so yet.

Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.
 
It does make me feel a bit better that it's not just me.
 
Does that make me a bad person?
 

jlhawk
Funny, mine behaves exactly the same way, and the discrepancy with the time cursor made it unusable, so I reinstalled the previous version. I also sent Celemony several projects that had time issues. Their response was that my files worked flawlessly in their environment... I call BS... I also run the full Studio version, and that's a lot of scratch to spend for a buggy product that's been a problem since September... I'm not real thrilled with Celemony right about now...
 

BRainbow
Me too.  Always have to manually select melodic or polyphonic to get it to do more than show a straight line (which is probably the percussive algorithm loading by default).  Frustrating, but it only take a couple seconds to remedy and everything else (except the time cursor not visually jibing with what's showing in the CW track view window).  They know about it and should fix it - not sure why they haven't done so yet.

I thought that I was going mad earlier when the time ruler kept getting out of sync. I thought it was my old pc having trouble keeping up with it as it looped.
 
Wow, this version is really buggy.
 
When you say that you installed the previous version, do you mean v4...something or prior to 4?  I only have the v4 installer they sent me when I bought the upgrade.

paulo
 
When you say that you installed the previous version, do you mean v4...something or prior to 4?  I only have the v4 installer they sent me when I bought the upgrade.

Unless you have more than one license you can't reinstall v2 if it was used to upgrade to 4. Celemony requires surrendering a license to upgrade.

scook

paulo
 
When you say that you installed the previous version, do you mean v4...something or prior to 4?  I only have the v4 installer they sent me when I bought the upgrade.

Unless you have more than one license you can't reinstall v2 if it was used to upgrade to 4. Celemony requires surrendering a license to upgrade.

Yeah, I was hoping that there was a previous version 4.xx installer somewhere that I could install instead of the latest one until it's fixed.
 

Update ( in case anyone is interested)
 
Celemony sent me a previous v.4 installer and it draws the audio correctly so at least that is now unbroken again, Still missing the horizontal note lines on the audio clip, but I'm happier than I was. Haven't had time to test if the time ruler is behaving itself or not in this version yet. 
 
They said that they know there are problems and they are working on it.

same thing here, but my machine also locks up!  Extra fun.  I get the straight line, and can change to the correct algorithm, but I get a drop out, then no response at all.  Have to kill manually.  I may export the track I need melodyned and open it in Studio One.  PITA!

I had Melodyne Editor 2, used it a lot within Sonar Platinum for audio-to-midi conversion, both with monophonic and sometimes with polyphonic audio. With the former I'd just drag the audio file to an empty midi track and Melodyne did the conversion behind the secenes, via the magic of ARA, leaving me with a reasonably good (depending on the source material) midi track.
 
Because this method uses the monophonic algo by default (with no way to change this default to my knoweldge), the only way to export polyphonic audio as midi was to apply Melodyne as a region effect to the audio clip, and, from within the Melodyne GUI, choose the Export as Midi (or maybe it's Save as Midi) command. Worked well enough, given the inherent challenges of poly conversion.
 
However ... I upgraded to Melodyne Studio 4, and while it still handles monophonic conversion fine within SPLAT, now, the tempo of midi files converted from polyphonic audio, using the method decribed, is way, way off, like half the speed it should be.  Total fail, unusable.
 
When I try from within Melodyne Studio 4 standalone, I get the same error.  (I'm still on version 4.1.1, as I've read that some folks who updated past that where having problems, and I'm afraid I don't trust Celemony's technical competence these days like I used to. I've used Melodyne since I bought the first version in 2002).  
 
Anyone able to get this to work? 
 
This is a serious problem for me. I used Melodyne a lot for poly conversion and now, having paid to upgrade, no longer can. 
 
Gosh I hate that they won't let you roll back. Bad enough that they take your money and screw this up; however, to keep your money but not let you roll back makes me a bit bitter.
 
 

paulo
Success!
 
Celemony sent me another version of the pre 4.2 installer and now all my issues seem to be resolved. I have asked them if I am permitted to share the link to this installer and will post it here if I am allowed to - assuming that this place is still open at that point. If it is closed I will make a post at the new forum and put it there.
 
 

Please do post if possible.  I did the export audio to Studio One thing, and reimport to Sonar.  It worked, but way too time consuming.  I never should have updated....

sven450

paulo
Success!
 
Celemony sent me another version of the pre 4.2 installer and now all my issues seem to be resolved. I have asked them if I am permitted to share the link to this installer and will post it here if I am allowed to - assuming that this place is still open at that point. If it is closed I will make a post at the new forum and put it there.
 
 

Please do post if possible.  I did the export audio to Studio One thing, and reimport to Sonar.  It worked, but way too time consuming.  I never should have updated....

They have asked me not to share the link, but I can confirm that what I now have installed is a pre 4.2 version so if you have an older installer pre 4.2 I guess it must be worth a try. I had to uninstall 4.2 first as it wouldn't allow an older version to overwrite a newer version, but so far so good.........

I reinstalled the 4.1 version I happened to have. I tend to save previous downloads until I'm sure there are no issues with newer versions. It barks at me when I launch, but I just close the browser window and continue working. Version 4.2 was unusable for me. Had issues in Studio One 4 as well...
 

paulo
 
When you say that you installed the previous version, do you mean v4...something or prior to 4?  I only have the v4 installer they sent me when I bought the upgrade.