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2016/02/08 17:20:37 (permalink)

Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester

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I went ahead and paid for an upgrade from Melodyne 3 Essentials to Editor. What happens when I upgrade Sonar Platinum to Manchester as far as Melodyne is concerned? Will my 3 Editor and 4 Essentials both be available, or whaaa?
 
Just want to make sure nothing gets whacked!
 
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 17:23:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby razor 2016/02/08 18:45:41
There's no Melodyne Editor 3, there was a Melodyne Studio 3 and a Melodyne Editor/Assistant/Essentials 2. If you upgraded to Editor 4 now you should install the new software and it will replace the older one. 
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 17:27:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby razor 2016/02/08 18:45:38
Hi. I have read recent threads, that had problems with M4 (Melodyne 4) opening projects with (earlier versions of) Melodyne that had been saved without rendering clips. I have had none, after updating to M4.
If you have the chance, render and save projects before opening with the new M4.
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 18:32:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2016/02/08 18:40:58
Nothing happens when upgrading SONAR. The Melodyne upgrade is handled directly with Celemony. Celemony provides all users of Melodyne Essential a free upgrade to Melodyne 4 Essential. Other versions of Melodyne are a paid upgrade. Upgrading to Melodyne 4 requires surrendering your Melodyne 2 license. Your options are:
1) stay with Melodyne 2 Editor or
2) purchase the upgrade to Melodyne 4 Editor or Melodyne 4 Studio.
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 18:44:44 (permalink)
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There's no Melodyne Editor 3, there was a Melodyne Studio 3 and a Melodyne Editor/Assistant/Essentials 2. If you upgraded to Editor 4 now you should install the new software and it will replace the older one. 


CORRECTION: I upgraded to Melodyne editor 2.x retail. Sorry, I'm not in front of my DAW now.
 
Am I losing any functionality from Melodyne 2.x retail to Melodyne 4 Essential bundled with Manchester?
 
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 19:00:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby razor 2016/02/08 21:15:32
Cakewalk supplies 1 license to Melodyne per SONAR license. You do not receive an additional Melodyne license when upgrading from X3. Melodyne 4 Essential just like Melodyne 2 Essential does not have the polyphonic algorithms provided in Editor. I am not sure if Celemony permits downgrading to Melodyne 4 Essential. If they do, I do not see the value in doing it.
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 20:06:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby razor 2016/02/08 21:15:35
Hi Razor. 
As scook said there is no real value in downgrading from editor 2 to essential 4 -  too many lost features. There are great deals around on the Editor 2 to studio 4 upgrade though for around $125. Here's  one (price is reduced when added to cart) :
 
http://audiodeluxe.com/pr...odyne-4-studio-upgrade

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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/08 21:17:52 (permalink)
OK, that functionality between Melodyne versions is very clear now. Thanks.
 
Just to confirm on a technical level, if I elect to upgrade Sonar Platinum to Manchester and keep my Melodyne 2 editor, I should have no problems doing that. Did I understand correctly?
 
Sorry if I'm being dense.

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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/09 00:28:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby razor 2016/02/09 11:24:34
That's correct Razor.  Your melodyne licence will not change and editor 2 will work the same as it always has in Manchester.

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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/09 11:25:31 (permalink)
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That's correct Razor.  Your melodyne licence will not change and editor 2 will work the same as it always has in Manchester.


Kewl. Thanks everyone.

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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/09 14:15:30 (permalink)
If you feel like spending even more, the upgrade to Studio 4 is really well priced right now. Right now the difference within Sonar is in some workflow enhancements, cool sound design possibilities, a few extra algorithms and the possibility to see "reference tracks" in Melodyne, e.g. for when you have to "aim" backing vox at a lead part. It was implied that true multitrack editing might be possible in the future (e.g. for multi-tracked drums). In fact it already is but not through ARA, so you'd have to manually transfer audio.
 
Plus being ensured of continued support with the latest version of course. 
 
Editor 2 is still a great product by the way, it's just a good deal to go to the top version at the moment. 
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/09 14:53:48 (permalink)
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If you feel like spending even more, the upgrade to Studio 4 is really well priced right now. Right now the difference within Sonar is in some workflow enhancements, cool sound design possibilities, a few extra algorithms and the possibility to see "reference tracks" in Melodyne, e.g. for when you have to "aim" backing vox at a lead part. It was implied that true multitrack editing might be possible in the future (e.g. for multi-tracked drums). In fact it already is but not through ARA, so you'd have to manually transfer audio.
 
Plus being ensured of continued support with the latest version of course. 
 
Editor 2 is still a great product by the way, it's just a good deal to go to the top version at the moment. 


Ya know, when I first got X3 there was an option to upgrade Melodyne for a reduced price for a limited time. I thought, meh, I've got V-Vocal. Why do I need to uograde? I figured it out after the price discount was over, so I'm thinking about upgrading whilst there a deal.

I have to see if the added features from 2 to 4 are worth it now.
post edited by razor - 2016/02/09 19:26:10

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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/09 16:47:03 (permalink)
My advice would be to not even mess with essentials 4. If memory recalls, I had some authorization issues when I did that with Melodyne 2. I downloaded essentials as part of a rolling update, and it overwrote my authorization for 2 editor. I got it figured out, and Celemony was cool about it, but it was still a pain.

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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/09 16:59:10 (permalink)
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If you feel like spending even more, the upgrade to Studio 4 is really well priced right now. Right now the difference within Sonar is in some workflow enhancements, cool sound design possibilities, a few extra algorithms and the possibility to see "reference tracks" in Melodyne, e.g. for when you have to "aim" backing vox at a lead part. It was implied that true multitrack editing might be possible in the future (e.g. for multi-tracked drums). In fact it already is but not through ARA, so you'd have to manually transfer audio.
 
Plus being ensured of continued support with the latest version of course. 
 
Editor 2 is still a great product by the way, it's just a good deal to go to the top version at the moment. 


I upgraded to Studio 4 (from Editor 2) a few weeks ago.  That gave me version 4.0.2.1.  Having seen mention in a couple threads here that Celemony had issued an update, yesterday I downloaded Studio 4 again from my Celemony account.  Lo and behold, it is version 4.0.2.3.  (Haven't installed it yet, but a file compare shows that indeed the .cab files differ between the two.)  Despite the one or two hints in this forum that there was an update, I've not seen any mention on the Celemony site itself that they have in fact substituted the previous "Studio 4" build with a newer one, or what the difference between the two might be.
 
FWIW.  Would appreciate hearing if anyone knows what changes were made.
 
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Re: Melodyne Question Regarding Upgrading from Sonar Platinum to Manchester 2016/02/10 13:53:25 (permalink)
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FWIW.  Would appreciate hearing if anyone knows what changes were made.
 

 
Ditto - I didn't even know there was an update.     
 
Aside from one glitchy session (last night) where nothing in MD seemed to work right, resolved by re-starting SONAR, I haven't had any issues with v4.   Great $150 investment IMO. 
 

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