Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers

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Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers

http://blog.cakewalk.com/...n-sonar-with-melodyne/
 
This has had an immediate and deep-reaching positive effect on my workflow.
 
I have an assignment for 4-5 songs, we did the tracking 2 days ago and this arrived just in time. Less fiddling around with details, lets me focus on the creative aspects. A very welcome upgrade.
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    Zargg
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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/10 11:48:51 (permalink)
    Hi. I am really looking forwards to testing this myself. Good to see positive experiences before I head down that road
    All the best.

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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/10 17:39:24 (permalink)
    It is the most cool joe mama thing ever.
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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/10 21:02:49 (permalink)
    It just works! Thanks@
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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/10 23:01:30 (permalink)
    It is very slick indeed. 

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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/11 11:18:56 (permalink)
    I just used this to set up a cover by dragging the original up into the timeline. Very interesting to see the tempo changes.  That band sure wasn't playing to a click!  Great feature.

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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/11 11:22:37 (permalink)
    I unfortunately wasn't able to reap the benefits of this new feature. I dragged the audio file to the timeline, and after a couple minutes of "thinking" SONAR crashed. Melodyne has caused issues with some users in previous iterations and it seems the new version isn't any different.  (I was going to wait until these issues were sorted out before upgrading, but got impatient and wanted to jump on the low upgrade price while it was still available.)
     
    I opened the audio file in the standalone version without any problems, although I did notice that Melodyne had a difficult time grabbing the tempo for this particular song, so perhaps that's why it crashed SONAR. 

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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/12 09:52:36 (permalink)
    streckfus
    I unfortunately wasn't able to reap the benefits of this new feature. I dragged the audio file to the timeline, and after a couple minutes of "thinking" SONAR crashed. Melodyne has caused issues with some users in previous iterations and it seems the new version isn't any different.  (I was going to wait until these issues were sorted out before upgrading, but got impatient and wanted to jump on the low upgrade price while it was still available.)
     
    I opened the audio file in the standalone version without any problems, although I did notice that Melodyne had a difficult time grabbing the tempo for this particular song, so perhaps that's why it crashed SONAR. 


    How long was the track you told melo to process?
    I am able to drag ~3 minute tracks to the time line in Win7 32 bit without issue.
     
     
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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/12 10:16:23 (permalink)
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    I unfortunately wasn't able to reap the benefits of this new feature. I dragged the audio file to the timeline, and after a couple minutes of "thinking" SONAR crashed. Melodyne has caused issues with some users in previous iterations and it seems the new version isn't any different.  (I was going to wait until these issues were sorted out before upgrading, but got impatient and wanted to jump on the low upgrade price while it was still available.)
     
    I opened the audio file in the standalone version without any problems, although I did notice that Melodyne had a difficult time grabbing the tempo for this particular song, so perhaps that's why it crashed SONAR. 


    How long was the track you told melo to process?
    I am able to drag ~3 minute tracks to the time line in Win7 32 bit without issue.
     
     




    It was about a 5-minute song. I've been able to get a couple of other songs to work without any crashes, so I have no idea what happened with the other one.  When testing the other songs, I've found that Melodyne's tempo detection has been rock solid if the source material was recorded to a click or was performed tightly enough to resemble a song that was recorded to a click, but it has had problems with material that has varying tempos and/or time signatures.  I of course don't expect Melodyne to hit it out of the park every single time and it's a time saver nonetheless, but I was hoping it would perform better with varying tempos, since time signatures can be easily changed and don't require the type of guesswork and trial & error that manual tempo alignment does.
     
    Overall it's a pretty cool feature, though. I guess it all depends on the source material.
     
    Here's a question: if I open up a song in the standalone version of Melodyne and make adjustments to get the tempo lined up there, if I want to bring that resulting tempo back into SONAR, do I need to save it at a MIDI file in Melodyne then import that into SONAR? Or is there another way to do it? Obviously the drag & drop method is by far the easiest, but in cases where that doesn't line up correctly, I'll need to use the standalone.

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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/12 10:25:57 (permalink)
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    I unfortunately wasn't able to reap the benefits of this new feature. I dragged the audio file to the timeline, and after a couple minutes of "thinking" SONAR crashed. Melodyne has caused issues with some users in previous iterations and it seems the new version isn't any different.  (I was going to wait until these issues were sorted out before upgrading, but got impatient and wanted to jump on the low upgrade price while it was still available.)
     
    I opened the audio file in the standalone version without any problems, although I did notice that Melodyne had a difficult time grabbing the tempo for this particular song, so perhaps that's why it crashed SONAR. 


    How long was the track you told melo to process?
    I am able to drag ~3 minute tracks to the time line in Win7 32 bit without issue.
     
     




    It was about a 5-minute song. I've been able to get a couple of other songs to work without any crashes, so I have no idea what happened with the other one.  When testing the other songs, I've found that Melodyne's tempo detection has been rock solid if the source material was recorded to a click or was performed tightly enough to resemble a song that was recorded to a click, but it has had problems with material that has varying tempos and/or time signatures.  I of course don't expect Melodyne to hit it out of the park every single time and it's a time saver nonetheless, but I was hoping it would perform better with varying tempos, since time signatures can be easily changed and don't require the type of guesswork and trial & error that manual tempo alignment does.
     
    Overall it's a pretty cool feature, though. I guess it all depends on the source material.
     
    Here's a question: if I open up a song in the standalone version of Melodyne and make adjustments to get the tempo lined up there, if I want to bring that resulting tempo back into SONAR, do I need to save it at a MIDI file in Melodyne then import that into SONAR? Or is there another way to do it? Obviously the drag & drop method is by far the easiest, but in cases where that doesn't line up correctly, I'll need to use the standalone.


    In the stand alone there is a tempo map export option.  
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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/12 10:34:50 (permalink)
    Right, but does SONAR actually import a tempo map, per se? I thought I'd read somewhere that SONAR doesn't import/read a tempo map and that the workaround was to import a MIDI file containing tempo information. I'm at work right now so I don't have SONAR/Melodyne accessible until, oh 7.5 hours from now. :(

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    Re: Melodyne Tempo Drag 'n drop integration a serious time saver - Thank you Bakers 2016/04/12 14:32:24 (permalink)
    I had some difficulty getting this to work as I wanted it to, which I was able to solve by setting the Audio tracks to Absolute time in the Inspector. I had clips starting at different times in the projects and they slid around when the new Tempo Map was applied, as long as they were in M:B:T basis instead of Absolute.
     
    Anyway, since I might have appeared to be complaining then, I'll be sure to chime in now to say that this feature is fantastic.

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