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Melodyne Timing Control
Hey folks
I started messing with the included version of Melodyne on a bass track to tighten up some timing, and everything seems to be setup rigjt, except when I press the button, the selected part of the clip doesn't move with the quantity setting.
The timing isn't too bad, so I slipped the sensitivity to 100% and the selection still didn't mobe.
I'm sure it's me, but wondered if anyone had this happen?
Thanks
Stephen
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 14:26:36
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Ah, posting on the phone is rough.
*right
*quantize
*move
😛
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 14:26:36
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BTW--is this the right forum?
post edited by razor - 2015/03/31 15:01:07
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 15:12:15
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I don't think you can do timing moves with Essential (included in Sonar). You must have the full version for this functionality.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 15:14:21
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Jimbo21
I don't think you can do timing moves with Essential (included in Sonar). You must have the full version for this functionality.Â
I can manually slide notes over. Just the quantize doesn't seem to work.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 16:54:41
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You are selecting what you want to quantize, right? I don't use that function but I do think you'd have to select what you want to effect. Paul 
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 18:24:35
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Paul G
You are selecting what you want to quantize, right? I don't use that function but I do think you'd have to select what you want to effect.
Paul
Right. I select the note (blob) which turns red, then I set the quantize resolution 1/8 note, etc. and then hit the (next) button which I can't recall the name because I'm not in front of my DAW, but nothing happens. If this isn't a feature with the "free" version, do you happen to know if I can set the resolution so when I manually move a note it will snap to it? Thanks!
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/03/31 22:36:32
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OK, figured out what I was doing wrong. It doesn't work like MIDI where you select the clip and then click the resolution and click quantize--like I thought.
I select the note or notes, and then either select the resolution or leave it at None (which might have worked the best for me because my timing wasn't all that bad and just needed a note here and there to groove with the drums better). Then you click on the Quantize Time button and slide the timing slide over until you here the quantization you want, THEN, click OK.
This may not be the textbook way to do it, but it totally worked.
OK, now I have to just gush. What an awesome tool! I can't hear any artifacts even when I solo the track. How awesome!
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/01 14:52:56
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razor
OK, now I have to just gush. What an awesome tool! I can't hear any artifacts even when I solo the track. How awesome!
Uh huh.... Melodyne is one heck of a processing tool.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/01 15:26:18
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Yea it's definitely an awesome tool. If you have the Editor version, you can even do polyphonic tweaking. I was able to fix a single note in a sea of 12-string guitar strummed notes (it needed to ring out a bit longer), without any noticeable artifacts. Or you can fix a single string that was slightly out of tune, etc.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/01 15:50:26
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I'm actually going to cough up the 2 bills to upgrade after this experience.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/01 16:52:35
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You won't regret it. I actually really like that they went with an external program solution in this case (as opposed to V-Vocal). The integration is still right and the program plays at the heighest level of the industry. If you ever switch DAWs you can bring it and many a studio uses it.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/01 17:41:56
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Sanderxpander
You won't regret it. I actually really like that they went with an external program solution in this case (as opposed to V-Vocal). The integration is still right and the program plays at the heighest level of the industry. If you ever switch DAWs you can bring it and many a studio uses it.
Just curious; what do we need V-Vocal for now that we have Melodyne? Vibrato?
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/02 06:56:02
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☄ Helpfulby razor 2015/04/02 11:34:06
Pretty much. Melodyne only increases natural vibrato but doesn't add the artificial kind like V-Vocal can. Also, some people really like the "pen"-tool in V-Vocal of which Melodyne doesn't have an equivalent. You can do pretty much anything the pen tool does but Melodyne just uses a different approach where you have to split notes/blobs and edit the transitions and such.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/02 14:02:07
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I also like VVocal's way of compressing/expanding regions within the clip. But I rarely need that so Melodyne is 95% of what I need (or more).
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/02 14:04:24
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If I understand you correctly you can do that with Melodyne too. And AudioSnap for that matter.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/03 11:52:18
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It's actually the UI aspect of how Vvocal does it that I like vs Melodyne. AS has the same general vibe but I feel like VV is more focused on that area, if that makes any sense. Either way it's an infrequent thing for me - I have yet to open VV in SPlat.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/03 12:31:12
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Right. I never used that a whole lot in VV. I use timing corrections often in Melodyne though.
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/03 19:04:33
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So, I'm looking to buy the Celemony Melodyne Editor 2 Upgrade - from Melodyne Essential and all the US retailers I usually deal with want $250 US. I thought I saw it for $200, but I guess I was wrong.
I asked CW if they sell it in the CW store, but I have a feeling the answer is niet.
Does anyone know if there is an offer to sell the upgrade for $200, or was that a long time ago, or was that wishful thinking?
Thanks,
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/03 19:48:27
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There was (is?) a deal on the upgrade price, it came straight from Melodyne's maker, Celemony. Used to be, after registering Essentials (that you got with Sonar) with Celemony, you had ten days to upgrade to Melodyne Editor for a deal price. Users here reported that if they missed the 10-day deadline, they wrote to Celemony who honored the special anyway. In short, the upgrade deal was from Celemony, write to them and ask if they can do anything for you. A little hassle, perhaps, but the upgrade is worth it (and more).
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Re: Melodyne Timing Control
2015/04/03 22:06:47
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czyky
There was (is?) a deal on the upgrade price, it came straight from Melodyne's maker, Celemony. Used to be, after registering Essentials (that you got with Sonar)Â with Celemony, you had ten days to upgrade to Melodyne Editor for a deal price. Users here reported that if they missed the 10-day deadline, they wrote to Celemony who honored the special anyway. In short, the upgrade deal was from Celemony, write to them and ask if they can do anything for you. A little hassle, perhaps, but the upgrade is worth it (and more).
It doesn't hurt to ask, right? Thanks much!
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