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Melodyne crashing X3e
Hello my friends, I was trying to use Craig Anderton's vocal doubling trick ( http://blog.cakewalk.com/easy-adt-melodyne-essential/ ) and consistently get crashes. The first 3 times was after cloning the track and then creating Melodyne region as per instructions...Sonar showed StackHash_8282 (whatever that is) as being the fault module. I then tried it on the original track (no cloning done) and it showed the fault module as StackHash_d2af. I've messed around with Melodyne a couple times before and didn't have an issue so I'm wondering what the problem is now. Thanks very much, Randy
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:28:38
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I'm also having issues with Sonar becoming unstable when Melodyne is in use..
I often get instant crashes when opening projects with Melodyne in them. It sometimes takes up to 10 tries before these projects finally open without crashing. ..and I get crashes much more often when working in projects where Melodyne's active.
..I've sent in loads of crash reports already of course (every time it crashes). Really hope this is something Cake's working hard on solving, considering how deeply integrated Melodyne is with Sonar now.. and also because Melodyne IS awesome and using it shouldn't involve risk-taking of ending up with corrupt projects files.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:31:12
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@Loptec according to signature you are running X3D, please update to X3E. Please make sure you are on the latest melodyne update. Raising your buffers here might be worth an experiment. The other thing is doing a full a VST reset.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:35:14
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...strange and late double post.. o_o
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:36:18
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@Loptec according to signature you are running X3D, please update to X3E.
Please make sure you are on the latest melodyne update. Raising your buffers here might be worth an experiment.
The other thing is doing a full a VST reset.
It's not my Sonar that needs updating.. It's just my signature.. :P Melodyne is also up to date. I'm a "latest version-nerd" .. :) I'll look into the buffer suggestion and see if it helps. Thanks :)
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:37:36
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I think it's system specific as others aren't experience this. Did you reset the VST and check melodyne updates?
Ta
Lol we are posting at the same time please ignore advice you've already responded to.
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Loptec
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:40:16
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Didn't try VST-reset. I'll try that as well :)
Thanks!
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:41:19
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Loptec
I'm also having issues with Sonar becoming unstable when Melodyne is in use..
I often get instant crashes when opening projects with Melodyne in them. It sometimes takes up to 10 tries before these projects finally open without crashing. ..and I get crashes much more often when working in projects where Melodyne's active.
..I've sent in loads of crash reports already of course (every time it crashes). Really hope this is something Cake's working hard on solving, considering how deeply integrated Melodyne is with Sonar now.. and also because Melodyne IS awesome and using it shouldn't involve risk-taking of ending up with corrupt projects files.
It's funny you should mention that because last night a project of mine started crashing almost every time on load, and citing Melodyne as the cause. Like yours, it takes a good 10 or so attempts to get it to load. My X3 is fully up to date. There is definitely a stability issue with the ARA integration I think. I'm going to send my project to the Bakers and see what they can make of it. Did you try sending yours to support? I bet they're getting lots of these crash reports but maybe some actual affected projects would be helpful to them.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:46:11
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Loptec
I'm also having issues with Sonar becoming unstable when Melodyne is in use..
I often get instant crashes when opening projects with Melodyne in them. It sometimes takes up to 10 tries before these projects finally open without crashing. ..and I get crashes much more often when working in projects where Melodyne's active.
..I've sent in loads of crash reports already of course (every time it crashes). Really hope this is something Cake's working hard on solving, considering how deeply integrated Melodyne is with Sonar now.. and also because Melodyne IS awesome and using it shouldn't involve risk-taking of ending up with corrupt projects files.
It's funny you should mention that because last night a project of mine started crashing almost every time on load, and citing Melodyne as the cause. Like yours, it takes a good 10 or so attempts to get it to load. My X3 is fully up to date. There is definitely a stability issue with the ARA integration I think. I'm going to send my project to the Bakers and see what they can make of it. Did you try sending yours to support? I bet they're getting lots of these crash reports but maybe some actual affected projects would be helpful to them.
Ah! Sorry to hear about that (but also glad I'm not the only one). I haven't sent any projects to Cakewalk, only the crash reports. Great idea to send your project to them! What's your audio interface? Mine's an RME HDSPe RayDAT ...edit: nvm this.. just read your signature.. :P
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:55:07
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I think the ARA integration probably needs some tweaking...I had issues in the past with Melodyne clips doing funny things.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 13:56:14
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Just a quick thought - does you project have any hidden tracks with Melodyne on them?
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 14:05:15
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I was going to bump this this morning but then it dawned on me to try Melodyne in a new project.
It worked fine so it must have something to do with the particular older project I was using.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 14:17:43
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So you guys get no crashes when opening in safe mode without Melodyne?
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 16:52:03
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no. no hidden tracks with melodyne in them.
haven't tried shift opening without melodyne, but when Sonar crashes it says it's melodyne that caused the crash.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 20:32:52
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I have also had massive problems over the last 3 days, all involving melodyne, and all relating to timing changes. The only way I could stop Sonar from crashing, sometimes just halting and screens/computer completely frozen, was to open the projects involved, and delete the offending tracks completely. Once I have finished tracking, I save off and rename the project to begin all editing work, which the only way I have been able to backtrack and re-load the tracks, pre-melodyne.
I cannot provide further proof at this stage, as I was working with a new client, who was extremely un-impressed, and I was at a loss. I've not had any problems like this to date. For me, it's all since I upgraded to Melodyne Editor.
All latest upgrades to both PC, windows and software have been applied.
When I have time, I will look into the reports and try to get a handle on what's happening, but for me, this is a major issue and I will return to VV for timing related editing until I can figure it out. Right now, it's cost me dearly.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 21:45:28
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For what it's worth, to reiterate what I posted a couple of days ago, I have also been experiencing some crashes, namely white-outs followed by Sonar X3e closing (on Windows 7, 64-bit after Sonar issuing a terse announcement that it is about to, in fact, close) while using Melodyne Editor. These crashes have all come while I was trying to use the tempo tool.
For what it's worth :)
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 22:38:19
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I have not experienced any crashes myself but then I always split each song into about 8 clips.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 22:51:53
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I presume you meant split each 'track' in 8 clips Alex, or are you talking something different?
I do too. Usually only pick the small part of a track that needs correcting anyway, and then I have got into the habit of, once fixed, bounc to clip. Seems to me that if too many regions are created, SONAR struggles, so I try to keep the count to a minimum. I also save after every fix, because of the problems I've been having. But these last few days, saving didnt matter. The project would re-open, but any attempt to keep working, would cause a serious crash. As said before, if I removed the track entirely, things would be behave from that point on. Until the next 'fix'.
I'm not sure, but I think all of my problems are related to making timing changes, and depending how zoomed, differences in regions created within a track, of the 'snap too' setting. For example, One region altered with a snap too of say 1/4 and another region altered under 1/64. Manually changing things seems to cause havoc.
Just a guess at this stage, but that's what I'm feeling is happening.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 22:58:55
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It is interesting, MacFurse, that both of our problems seem to be timing-related. Of course, that may be only coincidence.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable than me will be able to make some sense out of it :)
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 23:20:28
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I'm not sure if it's limited to regions with timing changes. I have a feeling that it's just the creation of Melodyne regions themselves that cause the problem. The clips in my crashy project feature both pitch and timing adjustments. The problem is that it's very hard to reproduce an issue like this in a fresh project. Everything was hunky dory when I first created the regions and then after a long while of working on the project the crashes just started happening.
Incidentally I'm using Melodyne Editor too, but the clips in question are all using the melodic algorithm, not the polyphonic.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 23:24:51
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Do you have the TTS-1 or V-Vocal included in the projects where Melodyne crashes?
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 23:39:59
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For me Craig. Just AD2 and audio tracks, no VV. I've used Melodyne numerous times in other projects for pitch correction and timing, with no problems. Even doing entire tracks. Not a single crash.
But in my present projects, only doing timing adjustments, and only using the melodic algorithm. It simply will not work without crashing, unless I do say 5 second clips only, and bounce to clip, save, and then proceed to the next 5 second clip. Even then, the occasional crash.
As someone else said. It's like it creeps up on you, then "pow, you had your turn my friend, move along"...
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 23:45:36
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If you folks having the problems could share the projects and dump files that would be great.
When it crashes does it report whether the crash is in SONAR or melodyne?
If you send the dumps I can also verify this and forward them to Celemony if necessary.
If you have bug numbers for your submission, please list them here for reference since its much easier for me to locate that way.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/18 23:47:45
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I wonder how many people here know that Noel is a world-class jazz guitarist...well, you do now 
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/19 00:06:36
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A jazzy programmer - noice!! Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
If you folks having the problems could share the projects and dump files that would be great.
When it crashes does it report whether the crash is in SONAR or melodyne?
If you send the dumps I can also verify this and forward them to Celemony if necessary.
If you have bug numbers for your submission, please list them here for reference since its much easier for me to locate that way.
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/19 04:49:52
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I have experienced crashes on loading a project with melodyne in too. Usually loads and works fine on the second or third attempt. On the few times I tried to send the crash log to cakewalk , it wouldn't work so I gave up. The error message did state that melodyne was the cause of the crash though. It hasn't happened on any other projects so far so I'm assuming that it's project specific for whatever reason. No v vocal or tts-1 used
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/19 07:51:12
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MacFurse
I have also had massive problems over the last 3 days, all involving melodyne, and all relating to timing changes.
I've also had timing related issues with melodyne. But I'm not sure this happened with the current versions of the software. I'll experimented a bit with it and see if the issues remain. Anderton
Do you have the TTS-1 or V-Vocal included in the projects where Melodyne crashes?
Neither TTS-1 or V-Vocal included in my projects. Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
If you folks having the problems could share the projects and dump files that would be great.
When it crashes does it report whether the crash is in SONAR or melodyne?
If you send the dumps I can also verify this and forward them to Celemony if necessary.
If you have bug numbers for your submission, please list them here for reference since its much easier for me to locate that way.
I'm visiting friends for a few days. Will send you the projects (or one of them at least) next week. :)
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Re: Melodyne crashing X3e
2014/07/19 09:35:09
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It appears that something is amiss with Melodyne and SONAR... I am using Melodyne Editor (full version) as a region FX and occasionally it HARD CRASHES SONAR... and then when I re open the project, Melodyne essentials loads instead of Editor and the only way for me to get Editor back is to do a system reboot.
This doesn't happen all the time and so far I can not recreate on demand... it appears random to me.
Just piling on for the BAKERS (don't throw a flag).
Jim
PS - And I do have the latest version of Melodyne.
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