Teds_Studio
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Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
Been working on a project with a swing/jazz band in the studio. Was mixing yesterday and the guitar player was in the control room with me. During one of the songs he says.... "wait....back that up and play it again". Low and behold he had hit a major chord where a minor chord should have been in this one segment. I pulled up the passage of the guitar track in Melodyne Editor and was able to change the major 3rd to a minor 3rd in a matter of seconds. I had read in the Melodyne manual that this was possible, and even saw it done in a video on youtube.....but to be able to fix...not only single notes, but notes in chords...just amazes me...! edited to fix typo.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 01:21:05
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 01:27:22
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 01:33:44
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I have used Melodyne on vocals with great success. Even used it on the bass with this swing/jazz band (the guy was using a fretless bass and some of the notes were waaaayyy flat). But those were single notes. Fixing notes in chords is quite fascinating. The guitar player was very impressed to say the least...!
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 01:38:53
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I cannot even begin to imagine what's going on at the waveform level to determine, and edit, pitches in a chord. One of these days I'm gonna learn.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 02:06:43
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Melodyne will turn audio tracks into Midi Data too
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 09:38:49
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Bob...I'll have to give that a try. I'm thinking of adding a kick drum sample to the kick I recorded in this band. I haven't even tried it with audio snap in Sonar yet.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 10:42:49
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sharke I cannot even begin to imagine what's going on at the waveform level to determine, and edit, pitches in a chord. One of these days I'm gonna learn. Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm guessing they FFT the signal, determine the root note and best guess as to which harmonics belong to it, then transform in the frequency domain before IFFT shifting the whole thing back to the time domain. Way easier said than done, especially determining which harmonics go with the individual note, since several instruments may be playing the same note. Kudos to the Melodyne team for figuring out how to make it work. John
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 11:09:26
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Some things I have done with Melodyne other than fix vocals: • A guitar sample did not sustain long enough on the last note of the song. I used the timing tool in Melodyne to stretch it out to sustain as long as the other instruments so I could do a smooth fade. • After recording a guitar and having the note sustain for four beats, I realized it conflicted with another part, so I shortened it to two beats so it was gone before the chord change. • Removed vibrato from a harmonica sample to make it sound like a melodica.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 11:21:29
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Melodyne Editor is definitely one of the coolest apps out there. Just for fun I once brought in the song Brick House, changed it to major, and modified the bass line for a bassist coworker's un-enjoyment.
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Paul G
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 14:49:32
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So Ted, no problems with Editor in X2? I've been hesitating to install it. Thanks. Paul
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 19:49:17
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Melodyne Editor is my go-to application for all sorts of repair work. I recently fixed an electric guitar track in which a few of the strings went out of tune part way through the song. Sloppy bass parts get the Melodyne treatment too. It's so much easier and with better results than AudioSnap. One of the coolest things I did with Melodyne was take an electric bass track, extract the MIDI note info and use it to play an upright bass in Kontakt. The results were excellent.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/06 22:31:57
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 00:42:58
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Thanks for sharing your practical applications with Melodyne Editor. I was on the fence for a while but just picked it up :)
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 01:07:58
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I've used it to fix one out of tune string on an acoustic guitar playing chords. Also as someone already mentioned it can be used to turn audio into midi. I usually end up doing a good amount of editing due to miss triggered notes though. Teds_Studio Been working on a project with a swing/jazz band in the studio. Was mixing yesterday and the guitar player was in the control room with me. During one of the songs he says.... "wait....back that up and play it again". Low and behold he had hit a major chord where a minor chord should have been in this one segment. I pulled up the passage of the guitar track in Melodyne Editor and was able to change the major 3rd to a minor 3rd in a matter of seconds. I had read in the Melodyne manual that this was possible, and even saw it done in a video on youtube.....but to be able to fix...not only single notes, but notes in chords...just amazes me...! edited to fix typo.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 01:08:32
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Melodyne is the easiest way to deal with bass levels where upper octaves are much quieter or certain notes stick out more.
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 06:47:54
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I think Melodyne is friggin awesome. (The "editor" version.). Many people mistakingly think it is only good for vocal corrections. How wrong that is. I once took a 15 second clip of a black bird singing, reached in melodyne, reorganized the notes and copied new ones, and had the bird sing MY song. FRiggin friggin incredible what one can do creativly with this software once you really know how to us it. Don't like a few note sin a guitar solo? Reach in and change them. Bass player screw up a riff? Fix it. Love it!
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 07:23:57
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I'm always on here as the heretic who actually thinks Auto-Tune (in graphical - not auto - mode) does a better job tuning vocals with fewer artifacts than Melodyne. I still think that. However, I recently used Melodyne to change a single note in an arppegiated guitar chord. The result was a chromatic run that really added impact to the outro of the tune I was working on. Glad I have both installed and can use whichever one does the better job on the task at hand.
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Teds_Studio
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 19:41:34
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Paul, I've had zero problems with Melodyne Editor in X2. I've only had it for a couple of months...but it is absolutely incredible in what it can do. I love working with it.
Paul G So Ted, no problems with Editor in X2? I've been hesitating to install it. Thanks. Paul
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Re:Melodyne in Sonar X2...I was amazed...!
2013/02/07 23:23:31
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Teds_Studio Paul, I've had zero problems with Melodyne Editor in X2. I've only had it for a couple of months...but it is absolutely incredible in what it can do. I love working with it. Thanks Ted. Paul
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