yorolpal
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Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
I went through this once before with Platinum and ended up having to uninstall and re-install Melodyne to get it to work again. I'm sure that's what I'll end up having to do again....BUT...was just going to check here to see if this was a common problem with the new foxboro release.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/23 15:40:16
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I have t had a problem. It's become one of the first things I do when I update. Is check the region fx and other plugins as that's the most common issues I read about. While I've had a few inexplicable plugin issues Melodyne hasn't been one of them.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/23 16:25:48
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Is it the VST3 version that you guys use?
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/23 16:29:26
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You tried this VST reset/rescan thingy beforehand I assume?
Can you validate please all the file paths in CCC settings and Sonar Preferences to make sure no changes have been put in. Sonar has changed these values in the past during upgrades at least for me and a few other people, and we've needed to correct them.
Failing that what is the actual behaviour? You try to create a RegionFX then what happens?
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/23 16:30:48
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I have not had this problem. melodyne worked fine for me after Foxboro.
are you using it as an FX in the FX bin or are you using it as a region FX? have you tried both ways?
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/23 17:10:51
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Thanks for that Beagle! I've been creating Region FX and will try it in the FX bin. I've not had any trouble since installing Foxboro. I did just before that with older projects, though they had open, ie not rendered clips.
I didn't reinstall Melodyne or anything, but I closed the open Region FX, and started going at it, by creating the Region, editing and then rendering with no issues or problems.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/23 21:52:50
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Must've been something...though I can't say what...specific to the audio file in that particular project. I uninstalled and reinstalled melodyne and had the same behavior but tried some other older projects which worked fine. Sigh.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/24 14:25:42
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Well Ol' Pal, you've encountered the mysterious Sonar corruption bug. I've seen many posts and experienced the same sort of problem. It worked one day and then not so much. Some corruption of the files' essence happens and then the project is junk.
If you find a way to fix it other than recreating the file, let us know.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/24 14:28:07
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Thanks for that Beagle! I've been creating Region FX and will try it in the FX bin. I've not had any trouble since installing Foxboro. I did just before that with older projects, though they had open, ie not rendered clips.
I didn't reinstall Melodyne or anything, but I closed the open Region FX, and started going at it, by creating the Region, editing and then rendering with no issues or problems.
Michael
I don't ever use the region FX myself (for Melodyne), I always use it in the FX bin. I've been using Melodyne long before region FX ever existed in sonar, so it's just 2nd nature to me to insert it in the FX bin - I don't even think about region. I'm sure the region FX are good for some people, but it's just not good for my workflow.
post edited by Beagle - 2015/07/24 14:59:58
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/24 14:29:58
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yorolpal
Must've been something...though I can't say what...specific to the audio file in that particular project. I uninstalled and reinstalled melodyne and had the same behavior but tried some other older projects which worked fine. Sigh.
did you also use Audio Snap on that audio track? I've seen anomalies using AS and Melodyne before, so I always use AS first, then bounce it to clips so that AS is no longer "active" and then I'll use melodyne on the track.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/24 14:59:41
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Melodyne also saves its edit data in the cwp if not bounced, I am not sure if this has any contribution though.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/25 16:39:26
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I can't say I've ever had any Melodyne issues either, from X3 through Foxboro (knocks on wood).
But as others mentioned it does require a non-AudioSnap/looped/etc clip. I'd make a copy of one of these clips and move it to a new audio track, bounce it in place, then try Melodyne again. That may help narrow down whether it's a clip or project-specific thing.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/26 19:50:06
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I've used it extensively since it was introduced to Sonar, on both old and new projects, and it has been absolutely rock solid (using region fx - I have never used it as standalone or in fx bin.)
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/26 20:14:53
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I've used it extensively since it was introduced to Sonar, on both old and new projects, and it has been absolutely rock solid (using region fx - I have never used it as standalone or in fx bin.)
Same here, except for pilot error (e.g., bouncing while the track is muted).
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/26 20:24:16
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millzy
I've used it extensively since it was introduced to Sonar, on both old and new projects, and it has been absolutely rock solid (using region fx - I have never used it as standalone or in fx bin.)
Same here, except for pilot error (e.g., bouncing while the track is muted).
That made me smile - it's the kind of thing I would do. I have had an intermittent problem with splitting clips for some time. Eventually the penny dropped that I was highlighting a "comp" track clip, with many lanes/layers, and wondering why "S" wouldn't work.. Opened up the take lanes and voila.. I'm glad I discovered it before I came on here screaming..
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/26 23:17:32
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I've used it extensively since it was introduced to Sonar, on both old and new projects, and it has been absolutely rock solid (using region fx - I have never used it as standalone or in fx bin.)
Same here, except for pilot error (e.g., bouncing while the track is muted).
That made me smile - it's the kind of thing I would do...
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/27 17:01:48
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Yep, that's how it works for me, when "it isn't working!" LOL
I'm not having any issues with Melodyne, now that I have the "render habit"
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/27 17:39:59
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Computers may have invented artificial intelligence, but humans excel at artificial stupidity.
I have found Melodyne (I have the full editor version) to be rock solid in the <RegionFX> mode as well. Similarly, most of the bugs I have found using Sonar Xn relate to my impatience and thinking that I can change things on the fly (i.e. while mixing, or worse while recording). Sometimes it just forces an audio halt, but sometimes crashes the program. I can only recall one corrupted file (beyond recovery) a couple years back.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/30 21:35:41
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I have part of this message in another thread but I am putting it here also because of the emphasis here on pilot error causing problems, which is definitely possible in my case.
I just started using Melodyne Editor as a plug-in in Sonar X3 64 bit in Windows 7 and have a problem of another blob moving when I change the pitch on the one selected.
1-Snap is off.
2-It occurs 2 bars away from where I am changing the pitch, so I would not think the pitch transition would be relevant. (It also occurred when I used the program yesterday in the same bar.)
Specifically, when I move a blob at A# down to A, it moves a C two bars away down to B. When I move the B back to C, the earlier note goes back to A#. When that happens, the Scale Editor also changes from C major to D major. I do not want this to happen!!!
I am wondering if this has something to do with the way Melodyne handles scales, which I can change, or if this is just a bug in the way it works within Sonar. Also wonder if there would be difference in using Melodyne Essentials rather than Editor, or in using Sonar 32 bit.
I am starting it from Region FX. Anybody have any ideas whether it is me or the programs not working together properly? Thanks.
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Re: Melodyne no longer working with latest Platinum Release...
2015/07/30 22:28:12
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I have part of this message in another thread but I am putting it here also because of the emphasis here on pilot error causing problems, which is definitely possible in my case.
I just started using Melodyne Editor as a plug-in in Sonar X3 64 bit in Windows 7 and have a problem of another blob moving when I change the pitch on the one selected.
1-Snap is off.
2-It occurs 2 bars away from where I am changing the pitch, so I would not think the pitch transition would be relevant. (It also occurred when I used the program yesterday in the same bar.)
Specifically, when I move a blob at A# down to A, it moves a C two bars away down to B. When I move the B back to C, the earlier note goes back to A#. When that happens, the Scale Editor also changes from C major to D major. I do not want this to happen!!!
I am wondering if this has something to do with the way Melodyne handles scales, which I can change, or if this is just a bug in the way it works within Sonar. Also wonder if there would be difference in using Melodyne Essentials rather than Editor, or in using Sonar 32 bit.
I am starting it from Region FX. Anybody have any ideas whether it is me or the programs not working together properly? Thanks. I haven't seen this behaviour but make sure that in Melodyne under Edit/Pitch Grid that No Snap is checked. Also try just selecting the one blob (click and drag with your mouse) with the selector tool (arrow.) You may need to zoom out to just grab the one blob. Now try your pitch adjustment. Not sure if this helps but its all I can think of - good luck!
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