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Members Of the Forum

I feel the Cakewalk people can issue a pass for people only when they register the software to become members of this forum.Please post your thoughts.

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    dontletmedrown
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 00:20:58 (permalink)
    why?
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    Psychobillybob
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 00:45:11 (permalink)
    And just what will this pass get you?

    It took 5 weeks for my registrations to show up...you really want to go there?


    I'm using SOnar Platinium on a 6 core Lynx Audio machine and a ton of vintage pre-amps/eq's/comps I build for fun and sometimes money, REDD.47/API/Neve I also use the UAD stuff, and also use a Macbook Logic 9 through Apogee...
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    vanblah
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 00:51:03 (permalink)
    That would exclude potential discourse and good advice from people who don't use Cakewalk software.
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 00:53:58 (permalink)
    unnecessary and unneeded. Also, this forum has and will attract new customers

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 02:33:22 (permalink)
    I think the people at Samplitude have the right idea. It has a Newcomer forum that is open to anybody...and others that are for registered product owners only. Really cuts down on trolling and discourse that isn't on subject. If something like that matters to you, then it's actually very refreshing.

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 02:34:23 (permalink)
    I like freedom.

     
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 03:00:28 (permalink)
    I used this forum a lot before buying Sonar.
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 03:15:55 (permalink)
    I think the people at Samplitude have the right idea. It has a Newcomer forum that is open to anybody...and others that are for registered product owners only. Really cuts down on trolling and discourse that isn't on subject. If something like that matters to you, then it's actually very refreshing.

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    DB
    Yes one reason I don't like Samplitude. I can't get into their forum to see what the real issues are. I like it here just the way it is. We can deal with spammers and trolls. I do not want to have to register with all my info in order to be here. On the Cubase forum I am a registered user yet if I stay away too long I will have to re-register. I did it once and that was enough. I haven't been there for a year or so.

    CW has a great forum lets keep that way.

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 03:18:44 (permalink)
    ^^

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 03:40:49 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: musicroom

    I like freedom.


    Me too, but you can be 'free to' (troll) or 'free from' (trolling) and picking one will engender a different system of control from the other.

    I've actually found the last few trolls though here pretty funny, it's like sunday afternoon at the village duckpond with all the feeding going on. (I just chose to report the posts and leave it).

    The idea of a registered users board is appealing. It could be read-only to non registered users so they can see what a great community is available if they register, and, perhaps, there could be additional bonuses for registered users such as a proper bugtracker and maybe a system like http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ to post, vote on and track feature requests.

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 07:31:34 (permalink)
    Having taken years of abuse on the Cubase forum, with people questioning whether i owned the software every 5 mins (I did) when I came over to check out hte Sonar forum before buying the product, it was part of why I bought. Yes we ahve the occasional Troll, but I like a bit of troll baiting to while away a Friday afternoon in the office and woudl rather put up with that than the police state of a forum that Cubase's is.

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 07:54:56 (permalink)
    different companies handle it different ways.. obviously you need a dongle etc to use the cubase one.

    with props.. it has icons next to your name showing what you bought (that is VERY handy for not answering questions by people who don't own a product) .. BUT if they are a registered user...e.g. recycle, they still can see answers given for reason etc.

    and here.. pretty stress free.. so I don't think there is any best answer to that problem
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 08:27:45 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: John

    I like it here just the way it is. We can deal with spammers and trolls. I do not want to have to register with all my info in order to be here.


    +1

    This issue just came up on the Credit Card warning thread where I answered thusly...

    Also I never use an internet account that is linked to a customer account for any other purpose after I had an account cleared out by somebody that managed to get hold of details via a forum profile that was linked to a customer account with a particular company. I'm sure Cake's security isn't as lax as that companies was and it was quite a few years ago now and perhaps it is more difficult to obtain that kind of info, but I still don't take chances. I'm especially wary of something like the Propellerheads forum where it flags up what products are registered to you for all to see which must be linked to a customer account in SOME way, so I have a public profile there for forum participation which is linked to a different email to my customer account which ONLY gets used for online transactions and I don't post in the members areas. Again I'm sure they have good security there but I make sure I take responsibility for my own safety.


    This outlook may mean that I lose the benefit of certain things like being helped by 'Fog' over at the 'props' but hey I try to limp onwards regardless..., besides on that particular forum it may show folk with 'valid' registrations but is no indicator of how those 'valid' registrations were obtained.

    This is a real healthy, vibrant forum with a wide area of exchange so why tinker with it until it isn't?...
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2009/02/20 10:22:10

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 08:45:22 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dbmusic

    I think the people at Samplitude have the right idea. It has a Newcomer forum that is open to anybody...and others that are for registered product owners only. Really cuts down on trolling and discourse that isn't on subject. If something like that matters to you, then it's actually very refreshing.

    Regards,

    DB


    I think for the fun of it I will write a piece of code that will poll the CW forums for the word "troll" and keep a running count... it may help illuminate the near obsession some people have with that.

    No thanks... like somebody else said... I will keep my freedom thank you very much. I do not want anybody dictating who may or may not use the public forum systems based on some sort of exclusive snobbery or bizarre internet xenophobia (yes I am talking to you troll criers). I much prefer the "community drop in center" feel to this place over some stuffy paying members only "old boys club" that these suggestions would turn it into. Its bad enough we have self-appointed registration police, now we want to institutionalize it too?

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    dontletmedrown
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 09:20:27 (permalink)
    Maybe people who are registered can get a "registered user" badge that shows up under their avatar? Maybe that will make some people feel better.
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 10:10:42 (permalink)
    Dave, even with that system it's not 100%.. I mean I guess it's a reassuring thing, but in turn with that you have to make the forum login access only, to make that effective.. and even there there a loop holes in that.
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 11:47:36 (permalink)

    I can understand your feelings but keeping it as is is the majoritys
    feelings. Ive learned a lot here from other members. ive made some
    post's and after seeinig others views i realized i had much to learn
    about many things.

    ive come to like and respecct people who at first seemed a little
    oppinionated. i have sence tryed to be more informed of the why's
    and reasons of some posters. ita much like learning the forum.

    trying to filter the forum for a "few" reasons only creates a bad
    taste. its sort of like if we all had to have a card to go into walmart
    because of shoplifters we'd be ill too.

    is there a way to make it better? seems like no. after all again the
    more i learn about the members and there knowledge i have less
    consern over the small things.

    I have people here i highly like and respect. so when something
    at one time seemed a little concerning to me it isnt anymore. focusing
    on all the good things here puts little things way on the back burner.

    thats what ive come to feel

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 12:17:58 (permalink)
    I got a pass for 4 to disney world.

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 12:40:14 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: dontletmedrown

    Maybe people who are registered can get a "registered user" badge that shows up under their avatar? Maybe that will make some people feel better.



    IS the status near your name that important? This has been discussed here for many years..
    (I"ve been a member here for amny years but when I got a new email and tried to update it messed up,
    I contacted cake and they told me to creata new nick)
    This site really has very little trolling going on compared to other sites..And to go to a "police state"type forum would be ridiculous..
    If you are wanting to curb pirating and the pirate trolls...I suspect that would not work and in fact cause Sonar to be
    pirated more just my opinion...

    The people here are truly kind and courteous just read the post from the troll from yesterday..People from this forum
    bent over backwards to be kind to the poster even though they knew he was pirating the software and blatantly admitted it...

    Kudos for the kind people here...
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    SteveStrummerUK
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 12:42:20 (permalink)

    I just posted this in the MC forum - (the problem over there is Spam which seems to take ages to remove):


    I realise there are the problems you mention associated with limiting posting privileges to those of us with registered Cakewalk products. As you say, the biggest losers would be portential customers, and Cake aren't going to exclude a potential source of future business.

    However, why not have just one forum for this purpose alone, while only allowing registered users to post in the rest (i.e. the ones we have currently).

    Any future spam would thereby be concentrated in just one forum - surely if the Mods only had one forum to glance through every day, the problem could be dealt with much more effectively than it is now.

    And those thinking of buying Cake products would have their forum to ask questions - probably much easier to navigate anyway than bouncing across the forums where replies are likely to be more 'partisan' than objective.

    In addition to these plus points, the major benefit to this modus operandi would be to stop people who use cracked, copied and pirated versions of Cake software from effectively getting free technical support from those of us who have bought genuine legal Cake products and registered them.

    I can't see a problem with any of this - should we start a campaign?





    Just my thoughts on the matter.

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    Jonbouy
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 12:55:12 (permalink)

    I can't see a problem with any of this - should we start a campaign?


    So you didn't read any of the previous posters points then?

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 12:57:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jonbouy


    I can't see a problem with any of this - should we start a campaign?


    So you didn't read any of the previous posters points then?

    Yes, as always Jon.

    The bits in red are what I said I'd posted in the MC forum.

    Didn't you read my post then?

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 13:12:14 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

    Didn't you read my post then?


    Humph, yes I did as always.

    So in the meantime between posting it in the MC forum and then reading what's been posted in this thread, can you see any problems with it now?
    post edited by Jonbouy - 2009/02/20 13:18:01

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 13:12:38 (permalink)

    My main point about the MC forum was that the Spam just seems to get left there - at the moment, page 1 of the forum has five instances.

    At least two of those posts have been there for a week.

    And one of them has the brass neck to keep bumping his spam.

    Maybe if one of the Mods swept through and removed them on a daily basis, people wouldn't even consider wishing for any change to the tolerant way of doing business round here?

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 13:15:55 (permalink)
    And one of them has the brass neck to keep bumping his spam.


    LOL

    There's one of those here too that is having a great conversation with itself...

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 13:23:41 (permalink)

    He he!!

    Maybe I was a little serious mate, but it is a legitimate problem over there that just doesn't get attended to.

    BTW, do you wanna know how to rip DVD's to your i-pod tunes player

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 13:31:33 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK


    He he!!

    Maybe I was a little serious mate, but it is a legitimate problem over there that just doesn't get attended to.

    BTW, do you wanna know how to rip DVD's to your i-pod tunes player


    Nah, but I got some great training shoes and some cheap rolexes if you are interested.

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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 14:16:26 (permalink)
    I just posted this in the MC forum - (the problem over there is Spam which seems to take ages to remove):


    It's just as bad in the software forum. Just counted 11 spam threads on the first page. The problem here seem to be that these posts get reported and it takes ages to delete them.

    Other threads get moved to the appropriate forum fairly swiftly, so why aren't these spam threads getting deleted? People will stop reporting if no action is taken....

    BTW Steve, I've just noticed we can subscribe in here now!
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    SteveStrummerUK
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    RE: Members Of the Forum 2009/02/20 14:23:09 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: VinylJunkie

    Other threads get moved to the appropriate forum fairly swiftly, so why aren't these spam threads getting deleted? People will stop reporting if no action is taken....

    Good point VJ - if anything, it should be the other way round.



    ORIGINAL: VinylJunkie

    BTW Steve, I've just noticed we can subscribe in here now!

    We even had a poll!

    Which I just noticed has been deleted from the stickies section!!

    Now that's irony for you

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