Message to Brandon Ryan

Since you are familiar with the 32 v 64 bit differences in Sonar X1, and have spoken about related issues (e.g., BitBridge), can you possibly help me with a major frustration I am having?  I have been unable to run RealGuitar or Vir2 in Sonar and this is preventing me from making any progress on my outstanding (and overdue) projects.
 
I originally tried to install RealGuitar and RealStrat (which I used in earlier Sonar versions on an older PC) without knowing a 64-bit updater was required.  Trying to insert one as a soft synth gave me a "soft synth may not be properly installed" message.
 
Following MusicLab's directions carefully, I uninstalled all Musiclab projects and removed the dlls from Cakewalk's VST folder.  I then reinstalled RealGuitar, and then ran the 64-bit updater.  Standalone mode is fine.  (I am waiting on RealStrat since RealGuitar is what I need.)
 
I validated that the RealGuitar dll is in the Cakewalk VST folder.  There is no RealStrat dll.
 
RealGuitar does not show up as a VST.  Oddly, both RealGuitar and RealStrat show up as choices under Insert | Soft Synth | Musiclab (though not in the VST folder).  Musiclab said not to select those and indeed they do not work.  The strangest thing is that RealStrat even appears when I have absolutely deleted its dll file.
 
I have uninstalled, reinstalled, rescanned VSTs, added and removed folder paths for Sonar's VST scans several times and cannot get this to work.  It is as though Sonar is stuck with the old 32-bit installs no matter what I do.
 
Note that I had the same problem with Vir2 Acoustic Legends HD, although I have spent less time working on it.
 
This is a huge problem for me and I have spent at least a week on it. 
 
Is there any possibility something is set wrong in Sonar and causing multiple VST issues?
 
Thanks.
 
 

I will, thanks.  I did not at first because (a) not initially sure if it was Musiclab or Sonar, (b) the Sweetwater installation of Sonar, V-Studio, and other plug-ins had a lot of issuse, so I was working with them and in theory they were talking to Cakewalk and (c) not sure how to fill out a ticket.  When Sweetwater installed, I did not get feedback on what they had or hadn't registered, etc., so I am having to put that together.  For example, I do not have a full Sonar manual (pdf).

yes calewalk will help you even if the issue is non cakewalk..there obviously not going to walk you through how to use a waves plug in.but if your having an issue like this were it relates to cakewalk they will walk you right through this whole thing.as long as your a regestered user of course.if your not regestered its not worth calling or emailing they won accept anything without a serial#.i wish i could help but i dont know anything about real guitar.sorry i just figured this would point you in the right direction.the tech support tickets are easy to fill out.

you say you dont have the full manual?
where did you get this copy of sonar x1 from anyway.?..if you dont mind me asking?
all sonar x1 copy come with the complete manuals.pdf. form.

chuckebaby


you say you dont have the full manual?
where did you get this copy of sonar x1 from anyway.?..if you dont mind me asking?
all sonar x1 copy come with the complete manuals.pdf. form.
so either your not finding it(like i told you in that other thread where it was)
or the copy of sonarx1 you are using is not legit...and i dare say if it isnt i think youd be crazy to be on here asking for brandons help.

Actually, X1 didn't come with a PDF manual. There was a huge fuss over it. It's available for download now, but it didn't come on the installation DVD's and wasn't available for quite some time.

It made trying to read the manual without having X1 up and running a pain.

There was a sticky about DLing the manual. Now its in your store account.

Chuck,

What version of real Guitar are using? 

 I too had the same problem, but My version was the earlier Real Guitar 1.5.  The problem I found was that Real Guitar 1.5 did not work in a 64 bit environment.  Also read here for additional information on RealStrat and Real guitar 2.0 in Win 7 64 bit environment.
 
http://www.musiclab.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2558

Peace

chuckebaby


i dont have real guitar. i have A REAL GUITAR lol..im trying to point the op in right direction to help him sort this out.

konradh:
 
 
Do you have User Account Control on, if yes, turn it off and restart the PC?
 
Try uninstalling and re-installing by rightclicking on the RealGuitar installer and selecting "Run as administrator," making sure you note the install directory for the 32bit and 64bit versions. With SONAR closed, rightclick on the SONAR icon on the desktop, select properties, click on the Advanced button near the bottom, click the box nex to "Run as administrator" so that a checkmark is in the box, click Apply and OK.
 
Start SONAR and use the Cakewalk plug in Manager utility to add the path where the 32bit and 64 bit plug ins are installed, scan the plug ins, and now see if they will load.
 
Note:
 
When I ran the 64bit updater, it caused the 32bit version to stop loading, but after reinstalling the 32bit version, both the 32bit and 64bit versions are now working for me in SONAR X1. There were also multiple instances of RealGuitar in the list of softsynths in SONAR, I had to try them all (2) and take note of which worked (loaded without issue) and use that one each time I loaded RealGuitar.
 
Hope this helps.

Message to Brandon Ryan.... if SONAR X1 doesn't work for me by midnight...then or else... 

3-Re: Running 32-bit as bitbridged: I don't know the procedure for this but will investigate.

 
When you select a 32bit plug in to run in SONAR X64 version, it is automatically loaded with BitBridge.
 
The problem with BitBridge is that useful icons that are supposed to be in the top right corner of all plug ins is not present when a plug in is loaded using BitBridge. Those icons are used to access certain features such as the step sequencer, the "give all keystrokes to plug in" option, and the MIDI Learn option related to the plug in's GUI, etc.)
 
Those icons are present when using the commercial jBridge utility. JBridge serves the same function as BitBridge. It costs about $21 US bucks, but is worth every penny.
 

dwcaldwell:

That's good to know, but those icons should be on the same window as the main GUI. How'd you find out about that? I learned something new today. :)

That being known, jBridge still offers a Plus, becasue some plugins are problematic when using BitBridge, but work well using jBridge. And if a user encounters a problem with a plug in using jBridge and reports it, the author is quick to reply and good at what he does, so the problem will likely be resolved fast.

Must say, though, it is good to know how to get those icons to show using BitBridge.

Thanks for sharing. :)

Don is on a roll tonight, dispensing gems of how-the-heck-did-you-figure-that-out hidden functionality left and right! Great stuff and it's nice that the forum feels like it's somewhat back to normal... 

(especially after yesterday's invasion)

subtlearts


Don is on a roll tonight, dispensing gems of how-the-heck-did-you-figure-that-out hidden functionality left and right! Great stuff and it's nice that the forum feels like it's somewhat back to normal... 

(especially after yesterday's invasion)

haaaaaaaaa...did he solve your act issue to?

Yeah, it's good to point out that the 32bit versions of RealGuitar and RealStrat run well in SONAR X64 using jBridge, but it's better to use a native x64 plug in (and RealStrat and RealGuitar have x64 betas that work well for me.)