Mic stand attachment for stereo miking?

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2015/02/23 18:31:59 (permalink)

Mic stand attachment for stereo miking?

Can anyone recommend a good quality mic stand attachment for holding two mics on the same stand? I'm looking for something that's durable, easy to use on a boom and allows me to position one mic higher than the other for XY miking. I've seen a few online but none that make clear whether or not it's possible to adjust the individual heights.

Hoping to spend less than $50 if possible.

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    batsbrew
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/23 18:56:01 (permalink)

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/23 18:56:56 (permalink)
    Get a nice one and trade me.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/23 20:30:29 (permalink)
    That looks exactly what I need, thanks! gswitz I think you will have to pry it out of my CDH's!

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/23 20:33:27 (permalink)
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZO3LU/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687622&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001MX9JAQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1GCYCBX54R4P0WFS4J4Q
     
    I have this and it's not so good b/c the Mics touch each other when they approach the 110 spread. Better than nothing though.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/23 20:54:48 (permalink)
    I bought 2 of those Onstage ones, to hold me till I get a better pair that are set up for stereo methods. The adjustability of batsbrew's is very handy! Thanks for posting.
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 07:53:20 (permalink)
    gswitz, I was gonna post the same, I got one for Christmas but it's difficult to use for me. Mics are too heavy, the sides aren't even close to symmetrical and only one side lets me set my own angle. Eh, it was $4.

     
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 09:04:39 (permalink)
    That's a fair price for them. I think I paid $5+ apiece and still thought they were cheaply made.
    This OnStage seems better, but I suspect OnStage of being the "low rent" models. (tho not as cheap as the MF line)
    It holds 6 mics! and it has notches/pins for the angles
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/329365.html
     
    There's this K&M (better)
    http://www.guitarcenter.c...;kwid=productads-plaid^65673068202-sku^107083222@ADL4GC-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^46499340282
    then another
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/KM23510?adpos=1o1&creative=55673940721&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CPKMpMXc-sMCFQwtaQodxYcAig
     
    This Rode is nice and has the angles marked on it. (probably a bargain and good quality)
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/465927.html
     
    then you could spend more (!) for the Grace. These seem like the "Atlas SB36w" of stereo mic bars!
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/379464.html
     
    It's a whole world of options. Anyone with experience with any of these want to chime in on quality?
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 11:49:36 (permalink)
    I use the K&M adjustable bar for cardioid patterns (the sliding one, not the bending arm one).  It has a 3/8" euro thread instead of the 5/8" US standard, so you would have to use the thread adapters that usually come with mic clips.  If you need extra spacing to overlap the mics, you can always use a combination of thread adapters like a 3/8 female to 5/8 male adapter inside a 5/8 female to 3/8 male adapter.  That will give you the appropriate height and only costs a couple bucks.   

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 19:18:45 (permalink)
    pentimentosound
    That's a fair price for them. I think I paid $5+ apiece and still thought they were cheaply made.
    This OnStage seems better, but I suspect OnStage of being the "low rent" models. (tho not as cheap as the MF line)
    It holds 6 mics! and it has notches/pins for the angles
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/329365.html
     
    There's this K&M (better)
    http://www.guitarcenter.c...;kwid=productads-plaid^65673068202-sku^107083222@ADL4GC-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^46499340282
    then another
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/KM23510?adpos=1o1&creative=55673940721&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CPKMpMXc-sMCFQwtaQodxYcAig
     
    This Rode is nice and has the angles marked on it. (probably a bargain and good quality)
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/465927.html
     
    then you could spend more (!) for the Grace. These seem like the "Atlas SB36w" of stereo mic bars!
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/379464.html
     
    It's a whole world of options. Anyone with experience with any of these want to chime in on quality?
    Michael




    Thanks, that Rode one looks nice and I can see from the image that it is indeed possible to raise the height of the microphone relative to the other. 

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 19:20:25 (permalink)
    rumleymusic
    I use the K&M adjustable bar for cardioid patterns (the sliding one, not the bending arm one).  It has a 3/8" euro thread instead of the 5/8" US standard, so you would have to use the thread adapters that usually come with mic clips.  If you need extra spacing to overlap the mics, you can always use a combination of thread adapters like a 3/8 female to 5/8 male adapter inside a 5/8 female to 3/8 male adapter.  That will give you the appropriate height and only costs a couple bucks.   




    Is there enough thread to raise a microphone? I'm guessing you'd need about 1.5"-2"?

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 19:54:12 (permalink)
    There are 6" goosenecks like these
    http://www.wwbw.com/On-St...;kwid=productads-plaid^85460543922-sku^276001.001.104@ADL4WWBW-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^48681270021
     
    So, I suppose with a little search there are probably other adapters that could give you different heights. Like maybe these could be made to work with certain others above.
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Micro2Retro?adpos=1o4&creative=55673940721&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CIKykIXw-8MCFZGIaQod51MAiA
    or this
     http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MM01
     
    You might explore quick release adapters, too.
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/QK2B
     
    I used to have a bunch of these kinds of things, but they're long gone now (2008 + Chap7). I suppose Sweetwater or Full Compass or B&H would be good places to look.
    Michael
     
     
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 20:00:51 (permalink)
    This Shure stereo mic adapter is pretty interesting, too, but more than your $50. You could probably get it cheaper.
    http://www.fullcompass.com/product/305049.html
     
    This is kind of fun, like a refresher course for me. I don't have any pairs of mics, yet, but plan to and these kind of bars/adapters are good to know about, even for trying out my mics with the Gold Digger and Cherry Picker.
     
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 21:05:31 (permalink)
    Is there enough thread to raise a microphone? I'm guessing you'd need about 1.5"-2"?

     
    Raisers only need to be half an inch for the mics to cross at the same angle, the standard diameter of most SDC's.  The capsules should be as close as possible.  

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/24 23:08:31 (permalink)
    rumleymusic
    Is there enough thread to raise a microphone? I'm guessing you'd need about 1.5"-2"?

     
    Raisers only need to be half an inch for the mics to cross at the same angle, the standard diameter of most SDC's.  The capsules should be as close as possible.  




    Ah I guess my guesstimate was way off! I'm actually thinking of buying a pair of AT 4041's and I see the diameter is 0.83". 

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/02/25 07:36:40 (permalink)
    I've read about them, but haven't got to try them, yet. I found these...
    http://www.zzounds.com/item--AUTAT4041SP?siid=75245&gclid=CML29P-H_cMCFQguaQodrqcAkg
     
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           With this new Warm Audio TB12 and the Hardy 990C+ I plan to put in it, I'll be back to exploring what works best on which guitar(and of that depends on the song/key/flavor, etc). Stereo pairs are a lot of fun!
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/03/04 23:04:20 (permalink)
    When it comes to Blumlein bars the heavier the better but you need a strong stand with a good wide spread on the tripod part to allow balancing the weight of the bar and the Mics you use.

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/03/05 09:31:26 (permalink)
    Ditto! I used to use weights on my tripods, but decided against them. 15 years ago, I bought 3 of those OnStage large studio booms with the 4 legs that can be folded in for storage, but wont' replace them(long gone).
        The Atlas SB36W are out my budget at the moment, so I've got the first (of two) of these; On-Stage SMS7650 the ones with the triangular bass like the Atlas. I figured I'd test one out and decide "after the fact".
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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/03/05 12:09:12 (permalink)
    Strong stands are an important investment to protect your mics.  I have the On Stage tall stand with heavy Iron base, and it does a good job.  I have abused it to death on the road and it has held up well.  If I need to extend the boom out horizontally with a heavy pair of mics I do use sand bags to reinforce the base.  It is no Latch Lake though.  

    Most of the time I will use tall aluminum light stands for ensemble recording.  Since they only weigh a pound or two, I always drape a 35 pound sandbag over the pole at the legs before extending it.  You would need a running tackle to knock the thing over.  I think it is important not to cheap out on stands, if I am going to stick a $4000 pair of mics 13 feet in the air, I want to make darn sure whatever is keeping them up there is equal to the task.  

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    Re: Mic stand attachment for stereo miking? 2015/03/05 12:48:54 (permalink)
    Yeah, I learned that the hard way. My first AT4033 (first session with my first "good" condenser) got knocked over by an experienced singer who wasn't paying attention. I, however, did and immediately got an assortment of weights for my tripods and went shopping for better stands. The OnStage with the fold up legs were next and an improvement, but very clunky.
    The Atlas would be the top for me, but I am not familiar with Latch Lake, so I will check them out. Thanks
    Michael
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