dotonemanband
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Midi + Audio [Solved]
Been outta the loop for abit. Might be missing something simple but I've opened up a midifile and want to add a vocal. As I insert an audio track I can still hear the midifile playback. When I click to record the audio I can't hear the midi tracks. I can hear my vocal signal coming through. That's as far as I get and then have to close X3 and startup again to hear the midifile. Suggestions?
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John
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/18 19:47:56
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What are you using to play the MIDI file?
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dotonemanband
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/18 20:00:17
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I've imported the midifile into X3, just like a regular project. That's what's playing back the midifile.
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/18 20:06:02
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Is it possible that both the midi track and the audio track are record enabled ?
This would cause the midi track to go silent.
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dotonemanband
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/18 20:38:37
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At this time, any midifile I play results in the same thing. I can hear the midifile play but as soon as I click the audio track record ... all the midifiles are silent. I can't reverse that unless I close X3 and start again. Then I can hear the midifile again.
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/18 21:03:26
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dotonemanband
I've imported the midifile into X3, just like a regular project. That's what's playing back the midifile.
What is the midi track output set to?
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/18 21:43:08
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A MIDI file or just MIDI can't play without going to a synth of some sort. It is not audio but data that tells a synth what note to play at what time. If you imported a MIDI file and did not set up a synth it is most likely using the MS built in synth. Which is the single worst sounding synth there is. This also means you probably are using MME as your audio driver and that is a poor choice. Use ASIO or WDM if you have a proper audio interface.
Load the TTS-1 synth via the browser and make sure that all the outs of the MIDI tracks are going to it.
Also try not to import a MIDI file but load it as a project. MIDI is a native file format for Sonar. When import it it will not use its own tempo but the tempo of the opened project you imported it into.
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 00:29:23
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I think you'll find John has the answer. If the MIDI tracks are using the MS wavetable that will create all sorts of problems.
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 07:32:57
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Thanks for assistance John. You suggest ... Load the project, not import it. So I open X3, go to File-Open-and select midifile from a folder. That opens the midifile in X3.The midifile sounds ok and tempo seems correct. That is what I've done all along. But I'm not sure how to ... "Load the TTS-1 synth via the browser and make sure that all the outs of the MIDI tracks are going to it." Something else. When I checked the midi output in each track, it was showing Microsoft gs wavetable synth and I can hear the file. When I change the midi output to my (cakewalk ua-25ex) interface, then everything goes silent even though I can see the playback levels. I know I'm close but what to do now?
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 08:43:20
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Is the UA-25ex connected to a MIDI keyboard or MIDI sound module? If it's not, there is no synth to play the MIDI.
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 08:49:46
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Yes the ua-25ex is connected to a midi keyboard ... thanks for any suggestions ...
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 08:50:48
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Disabling all the MIDI outputs (UA-25ex, Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth and any others) in Preferences > MIDI > Devices will automatically add TTS-1 when opening a MIDI file making the file ready to play.
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 15:20:19
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dotonemanband
Yes the ua-25ex is connected to a midi keyboard ... thanks for any suggestions ...
When 57Gregy says MIDI keyboard he means a synth capable of producing audio, not a MIDI keyboard for playing input. MIDI is just data that is used to produce audio via a synth. If MS Wavetable is your "synth" then it will produce output until you try and use audio in a project at which point Sonar locks MS Wavetable out. Result = no MIDI playback. Using TTS-1 is an answer. Have a look at this video on my youtube page covering basic MIDI that may help you understand the process
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Re: Midi + Audio
2014/10/19 16:04:25
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Just like to thank everyone for the help. Things are working and back in order. Using TTS-1 was the answer ... and a better understanding at my end. I'll be back with more questions ... but for now ... I'm content. Forum comes thru again !!!
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